I might be way off the mark here but the more I think about self crit and my own neurodivergence (maybe I’m been a bit black and white about this) the idea of having a sub where people go to self flagrate over their mistakes to signal to us they are reformed?

I dunno chat.

I’ve lurked here a while and while some of the drama on here has been funny or sad or anger inducing, at no point did I ever feel satisfied reading a self crit post. I never felt “oh the sights clean now time to make an account”.

I butted heads with incels on here immediately and while those people genuinely made me uncomfortable i don’t wish to see a selfcrit from them. In fact it would frankly appear disingenuous and virtue signally to me.

Like if people get called out then it’s on them to go do the homework, I don’t expect to have to mark it though. The people I butted heads with about that incel thread got comments removed and temp banned. That seems reasonable to me. I’ll die inside if I see a self crit on it.

I dunno I think there’s a lot of neurodivergence on this site, myself included. We try to make it a safe space for everyone which is great.

I think what I’m worried is that a culture exists on here where if a ND makes a mistake, they may feel cut off and left out from a community they need for socialising and support unless they make a self flagrating post further signposting their mistakes.

There’s a very niche and cool silly culture on this site. For a lot of ND people who don’t have supportive irl group I can’t imagine how it would feel to make fuck up and then feel locked out or lost this clique. I don’t think making a new account is the answer either because people’s accounts and history are representatives of who they are so to lose that for some might be like losing their identity as well. Maybe I’m projecting here but if I really embarrassed myself and didn’t think people would talk to me as much on here because of it and that the only way to fix it was a self crit post. That’s scary.

And then when i see self crit posts I feel like “damn nobody needed this, it feels uncomfortable to see this” like them getting dog piled and a temp ban wasn’t enough punishment.

Like it felt maybe relevant when the admins/mods did some self crit on their behaviour but like they run the site so that kinda makes sense (not really)… or it might have if they all did it, so far I only saw like a few and even then it felt uncomfortable to read their comments.

Clearly they made a mistake and having to convince faceless terminally online people that they had the sites best interests at heart was sad to watch given they clearly did care cos of the graft they put into the site.

I dunno I don’t see the point in this comm personally but I’m bored, my tamagotchi just died and I have always kinda thought this since the comm appeared so like yeah, let me know what I’m missing because I’m not the world and obviously my single view will be bias and full of holes or missing context.

Until then the sub feels a bit like todd asking cheaters on fo76 to write an apology letter and it feels like a bit of a toxic power dynamic to have it on the site kinda looooming as an example of what happens to the naughty hexbears.

Edit: lmao I’ve deleted and undeleted this twice cos I’m scared of getting grief but then I’m kinda proving my point doing that so I’ll be a big girl and leave it up.

  • sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    24 days ago

    I’m sorry I feel like I’m just chatting now.

    chatting is fun, never apologize for it.

    It’s like I was thinking wouldn’t it be nice for people to make big effort posts educating others again but then it’s like a) not victims jobs to educate oppressors

    yeah thats a big part of the issue, it causes burn out.

    does it create a desire to change or is it just a way to avoid the hard work/questions/change in perception that’s required?

    well it was intended to be something different than what it is, but after the recent anti mod/anti change sentiment the project was basically dropped halfway through.

    but i still think it encourages a more positive change then a negative one even still.

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      Having the big mega threads like the poc one is great though. A user on here included some links in her replies just as like a footer at the end and I keep going to read them but honestly notifications on here and my adhd are winning rn BUT I love that. The idea of just including a footer in every comment with a link to pages educating.

      but i still think it encourages a more positive change then a negative one even still.

      Which is all that really matters as an answer to this post. I’m lowkey so glad I got to post this and have nice chats with peeps and not have my head blown off, I need to check my anxiety lmao.

      As the self appointed hexbear operations inspector I have concluded my direct survey and c/selfcrit gets to stay congratulations