Some thinking they will preserve the light of consciousness like altered carbon as if a copy of their personality is them. And burn down a couple of forrests bringing death to overcompensate for their fear of… Uh… Death
It’s been an exhausting struggle session with some vulgar materialists that harbor some contradictory woo because of their own fear of death. More than a few times in different threads some people have insisted that a sufficiently “perfect” copy of a person, software or otherwise, is literally the original person. That isn’t to say that a “perfect” copy isn’t a valid individual with their own consciousness and such, but the woo is the assumption that the copy is the person, usually backed up with convenient thought experiment details like “making the copy must destroy the original body and brain, of course” because the entire fucking thought experiment falls apart the moment it allows for the original person to continue existing and having a “perfect” copy show up, living evidence that “hey, they’re still there.”
Some particularly obnoxious bazinga on the Star Trek lemmyverse comm got so freaked out about my dissent that they wouldn’t let it go for months after and kept name-dropping me as evidence that Hexbears were, quote, “superstitious.”
The bazingas use the “you believe in souls” accusation to project their own woo because of their own fear of death, and sometimes even concern troll assume that I’m somehow invalidating the “perfect” copy’s personhood in the thought experiment. I’m not. In fact, the belief that the copy is the original person denies the personhood of that new person in favor of whatever bazinga wanted to believe in the “upload” to begin with.
Also, regarding that death cult startup: memories are not the person. If someone loses some of their memories, are they now “less” of a person somehow? Again, the woo is on them.
Some thinking they will preserve the light of consciousness like altered carbon as if a copy of their personality is them. And burn down a couple of forrests bringing death to overcompensate for their fear of… Uh… Death
It’s been an exhausting struggle session with some vulgar materialists that harbor some contradictory woo because of their own fear of death. More than a few times in different threads some people have insisted that a sufficiently “perfect” copy of a person, software or otherwise, is literally the original person. That isn’t to say that a “perfect” copy isn’t a valid individual with their own consciousness and such, but the woo is the assumption that the copy is the person, usually backed up with convenient thought experiment details like “making the copy must destroy the original body and brain, of course” because the entire fucking thought experiment falls apart the moment it allows for the original person to continue existing and having a “perfect” copy show up, living evidence that “hey, they’re still there.”
Some particularly obnoxious bazinga on the Star Trek lemmyverse comm got so freaked out about my dissent that they wouldn’t let it go for months after and kept name-dropping me as evidence that Hexbears were, quote, “superstitious.”
Like that show upload. The guy had another copy running around. Similar memory all that but it wasn’t him. That reminds me of this startup where apparently preserve your brain but you have to be euthanized. Not exactly the same thing but it made me chuckle. https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/03/13/144721/a-startup-is-pitching-a-mind-uploading-service-that-is-100-percent-fatal/
The bazingas use the “you believe in souls” accusation to project their own woo because of their own fear of death, and sometimes even concern troll assume that I’m somehow invalidating the “perfect” copy’s personhood in the thought experiment. I’m not. In fact, the belief that the copy is the original person denies the personhood of that new person in favor of whatever bazinga wanted to believe in the “upload” to begin with.
Also, regarding that death cult startup: memories are not the person. If someone loses some of their memories, are they now “less” of a person somehow? Again, the woo is on them.