Communism as a system is structured to reduce exploitation of workers by eliminating the profit motive and instead produce on a centrally planned basis to meet everyone’s needs.
Capitalism as a system is structured to exploit the maximum amount of labor to generate high profits for the capitalist class.
Both systems will have instances of exploitation of labor. The difference is one of them is structured around increasing it, the other decreasing it to the point of abolishing it entirely. Judging socialist projects because of cases of exploitation of labor, in their nascent stages, is like criticizing capitalism in the aftermath of the French Revolution because there were still parts of France that maintained similar conditions to Feudalism for some years.
I could argue that we’re still in the nascent stages of capitalism. Claiming “nascent stages” is like claiming “but that wasn’t real communism. If we did this this way it would be better.”
I could argue that we’re still in the nascent stages of capitalism.
You could argue that but you’d be wrong, and you’d also fail to engage with the argument the other user gave you. Have you considered you’re maybe not such a smart little boy as you think you are?
Glad to hear it! Though I would caution against changing your worldview based on a single interaction. I’d recommend widening your horizon and gathering information in order to have a well-grounded worldview. If you need literature please feel free to ask!
We’re at least 200 years into capitalism and it’s reached the end of its lifespan. As the USSR and now China, DPRK, Cuba, Vietnam, and Laos and some other places demonstrate. Even if they didn’t prove that humanity is ready to transition into the next stage of development, we would know that capitalism is on its death bed for one simple reason: if it continues for much longer it will destroy almost all life on the planet. The best thing about capitalism is it’s lifespan.
No argument there. Just goes to show how destructive it is. Almost like the increasing concentration of capital in fewer and fewer hands with the increasing impoverishment of the masses of workers is a recipe for revolution. We can marvel at how rapid the contradictions within the capitalist mode of production led to it’s end.
Communism as a system is structured to reduce exploitation of workers by eliminating the profit motive and instead produce on a centrally planned basis to meet everyone’s needs.
Capitalism as a system is structured to exploit the maximum amount of labor to generate high profits for the capitalist class.
Both systems will have instances of exploitation of labor. The difference is one of them is structured around increasing it, the other decreasing it to the point of abolishing it entirely. Judging socialist projects because of cases of exploitation of labor, in their nascent stages, is like criticizing capitalism in the aftermath of the French Revolution because there were still parts of France that maintained similar conditions to Feudalism for some years.
I could argue that we’re still in the nascent stages of capitalism. Claiming “nascent stages” is like claiming “but that wasn’t real communism. If we did this this way it would be better.”
You might’ve read what he wrote but you didn’t quite understand it.
Oh man, you got me, I am a communist now.
You could argue that but you’d be wrong, and you’d also fail to engage with the argument the other user gave you. Have you considered you’re maybe not such a smart little boy as you think you are?
Oh man, you got me, I am a communist now.
Glad to hear it! Though I would caution against changing your worldview based on a single interaction. I’d recommend widening your horizon and gathering information in order to have a well-grounded worldview. If you need literature please feel free to ask!
We’re at least 200 years into capitalism and it’s reached the end of its lifespan. As the USSR and now China, DPRK, Cuba, Vietnam, and Laos and some other places demonstrate. Even if they didn’t prove that humanity is ready to transition into the next stage of development, we would know that capitalism is on its death bed for one simple reason: if it continues for much longer it will destroy almost all life on the planet. The best thing about capitalism is it’s lifespan.
That’s pretty short.
No argument there. Just goes to show how destructive it is. Almost like the increasing concentration of capital in fewer and fewer hands with the increasing impoverishment of the masses of workers is a recipe for revolution. We can marvel at how rapid the contradictions within the capitalist mode of production led to it’s end.