In order to have more success with educating people, just chill out and let people have their fun, you won’t educate anyone if come across as a smug asshole who acts like they think they’re much more intelligent than the person you’re talking to. People aren’t always rational and sometimes will only listen to “someone they could have a beer with.”
It would be great if solid intellectual discourse was the only thing needed, but unfortunately you need a friendly face first, the rest can come later. So sometimes you have to bite the bullet and reference the Harry Potters and capeshit just to get your foot in the door.
This has nothing to do with what you just posted, I just thought it might be good advice. Though sorry about it being completely unsolicited, I’ll totally understand if that just pisses you off, it is pretty rude and presumptuous of me.
This is generally good advice, but not for a person who is wrong. No amount of trimming the snark would allow anarchism to reliably convert MLs because most reality supports ML.
I guess I’m confused, I’ve seen you around here. Are you an anarchist?
No, I’m an ML, and honestly, I think the OP’s joke about state capitalism was terrible and quite wrong. I’m not sure if they’re an anarchist or an ultra or something, but I did look through their post history to find out and they just seemed to mostly spend time being snarky rather than educating people. This was probably better off for a PM honestly.
I decided instead of just calling someone out and getting into another pointless internet argument I’d try something else. Doesn’t really seem to work though. I probably should avoid doing stuff like this first thing in the morning, I’m not the most coherent then.
Hello fellow Lemmygrad, this ☝️ is exactly the sort of attitude that Western leftists are conditioned to have that ultimately does the most damage to our cause, even in more sensible spheres of the Left.
In order to have more success with educating people, just chill out and let people have their fun, you won’t educate anyone if come across as a smug asshole who acts like they think they’re much more intelligent than the person you’re talking to. People aren’t always rational and sometimes will only listen to “someone they could have a beer with.”
It would be great if solid intellectual discourse was the only thing needed, but unfortunately you need a friendly face first, the rest can come later. So sometimes you have to bite the bullet and reference the Harry Potters and capeshit just to get your foot in the door.
This has nothing to do with what you just posted, I just thought it might be good advice. Though sorry about it being completely unsolicited, I’ll totally understand if that just pisses you off, it is pretty rude and presumptuous of me.
This is generally good advice, but not for a person who is wrong. No amount of trimming the snark would allow anarchism to reliably convert MLs because most reality supports ML.
I guess I’m confused, I’ve seen you around here. Are you an anarchist?
No, I’m an ML, and honestly, I think the OP’s joke about state capitalism was terrible and quite wrong. I’m not sure if they’re an anarchist or an ultra or something, but I did look through their post history to find out and they just seemed to mostly spend time being snarky rather than educating people. This was probably better off for a PM honestly.
I decided instead of just calling someone out and getting into another pointless internet argument I’d try something else. Doesn’t really seem to work though. I probably should avoid doing stuff like this first thing in the morning, I’m not the most coherent then.
you’re not entirely wrong, I’m just not interested in performing the emotional labor of handholding.
Hello fellow Lemmygrad, this ☝️ is exactly the sort of attitude that Western leftists are conditioned to have that ultimately does the most damage to our cause, even in more sensible spheres of the Left.
Just thought it was a good example.
Fair enough, then dunk away comrade.