youronlyone

Quick question, just Lemmy?

Hopefully that doesn’t happen.

1. For some topics, there are already existing, very active, communities before the subreddits with the same topic migrated over. Who should merge with whom? The existing large communities with subreddit migrators? Or, the subreddit migrators merging with th existing large communities … and conforming to the rules and culture in those existing large communities?

2. As mentioned, there are different cultures and rules that develops per community. There is no such thing as one-size-fits-all.

3. Even if communities “consolidate over time”, it will still split up no matter what. That’s how it has always been sincee the beginning of online communities.

4. IF communities indeed consolidate over time, if that server/instance goes down, the entire consolidated communities will be gone overnight, and all the content they collected together. We’ve already seen this happen just this year, forget about the previous years.

In short, don’t expect it. In fact, it should be supported to ensure that:
a. we don’t return to a centralise system
b. we don’t put all our eggs in one basket
c. we build redundancy, continuation, and resiliency.

^_

Please don’t take this the wrong way, just a friendly tip:

with kbin finally with Lemmy again

If you are talking about instances, use the entire name. Try to avoid mixing your references between software and instances, otherwise it will be confusing and can cause misunderstandings. ^_

Kbin has always been “with” Lemmy.

• Kbin: https://fedia.io

• Kbin: https://readit.buzz

• Kbin: https://karab.in (oldest Kbin)

• Kbin: https://u.fail

• Kbin: https://fediverse.boo

• Kbin: https://kilioa.org (SOLO instance)

• Kbin: https://forum.fail

• Lemmy: https://sopuli.xyz

• Lemmy: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone

• Lemmy: https://lemmy.world

• Lemmy: https://lemmy.ml

• Lemmy: https://beehaw.org

The one which was being hammered by registrations and bots was/is https://kbin.social and it is just one of many.

^_

Re: fragmentation

Also, this negative “fragmentation” view is biased. Before the subreddit migration, there were already existing and well-established communities in the fediverse. Suddenly, after the subreddit migration, it’s being called “fragmentation”.

For example, topics like Star Trek and Books. There are already large communities in the Fediverse before the related subreddits migrated. Yet, you will see people calling it “fragmented”, some even have the guts to call other communities to “merge” with the migrators.

This is wrong and very rude.

Having multiple communities is good. There is no one-size-fits-all. Also, we’ve been doing that in the entire history of the human race. That said, even if everyone merged into one mega church, it will still split up like it or not.

In other words, we need to stop viewing “fragmentation” as negative. In fact, don’t use that word. Don’t even think about it. Just setup your community and build it up. Create your own culture. Your own rules. System, team, and invite people who wants to join your type of community.

Multiple communities is healthy for everyone. It is a win for everyone.

And… haven’t we learned what happens when we rely on one service? One central platform?

A lot can happen.

1. It suddenly goes offline. We’ve already experienced this in 2023. A lot of large communities disappeared for almost a week because the instance encountered issues.

2. The instance owner might no longer have the resources to continue. Not necessarily on the financial side, remember, there is the technical side which will take an owner’s time.

Sure, they can get other admins to join. But, as an instance admin, would you easily trust access? Consider also the trust your users has given you in protecting their data and privacy.

There were instances who went offline because of that, and instead of transfering management to a new team, or selling their platform to someone, they chose to shut it down permanently because they value the data and privacy of their users.

So… if that instance that happens to be hosting a one-size-fits-all community goes offline…

Well…

1. Or, it can very well be something uncontrollable. Server farm fire, raid, who knows.

But if we let people build their own communities spread across different instances, then we are building redundancy, continuation, and resiliency. If one goes down, for whatever reason, we have existing communities we can move into and continue our discussions, with minimal interference.

^_