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  • octopus_ink@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlDebate this!
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    Our Democrats would never let him win, and that’s before you even get to the Republicans. Republican heads might actually explode if we elected a progressive who dared to call themselves a Democratic Socialist.

    Meanwhile, Democrats are also crushed under the thumb of all the money big business pours into bribery lobbying, and they have already made it clear twice that they won’t let him get on the ballot.

    We’ll never get progressive policies or a progressive president unless the progressives infiltrate D to the extent maga has infiltrated R.


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    We’d just be disappointed again. The right would hate him more than Hillary and corporatist Dems still control the DNC. They wouldn’t let him win.

    OTOH a common opinion I hear is that he probably has more capability for direct lasting change being where he is, and I can see that being true, so there is that bit of small comfort.



  • It might effectively trigger people like you. Maybe that’s a reflection of your own inability to create wealth for yourself.

    I had to stop when you started in with the ad hom like you did against the other guy.

    My parting tip to you - if you assume that the only way people could disagree with you is if they are failures in life, that’s a fairly shallow and myopic view.

    Challenge yourself to imagine what you could actually do to deserve to be one of those 8 people in the meme. (Try to think more specifically than ‘work really hard.’) You are one of 8 people who collectively hold more wealth than the next 3.6 Billion combined. Many of those 3.6 billion are suffering. What exactly could you have done that makes that a deserving position to be in? And has anyone alive done that thing?

    Good day to you.



  • Socialism isn’t all bad, but generally wants to redistribute resources to people that might not necessarily deserve it.

     

     

    Everyone deserves to eat, to have access to clean water, to have a roof over our heads, to have our physical and mental health needs met, and access to a quality education. All these are enablers to become what you define as “deserving” and are also good for society at large.

    NO ONE has worked hard enough to deserve a billion dollars, and they certainly don’t deserve it because their parents supposedly did. The hoarding by those people (and IMO anyone in the “hundreds of millions” category) is the reason artificial scarcity of water, food, and healthcare exists, and why secondary education is unobtainable for many, and things like UBI and single-payer healthcare look unsustainable to folks who don’t want to support those measures anyway.

    These are people who could continue to live fantastic amazing lifestyles that most of us can only dream about, even if they gave huge sums in taxes to help the common good.

    You also seem to suggest that everyone who works hard is deserving. Plenty of hard working people live in poverty, and deserve the things I listed even by the most cold-hearted conservative standard.

    Edit - I’m going to pick just ONE thing: UBI

    In the past few years, aided no doubt by the economic consequences wrought by the pandemic, centuries of theory have at last been put to the test. A few dozen cities across the country have begun basic-income programs, and the early results have been overwhelmingly positive. In Denver, more than 800 of the city’s most vulnerable residents received monthly stipends of up to $1,000. So far the program has reduced homelessness, increased employment, and bolstered the mental-health outcomes of participants. A similar program in Stockton, California, had similar effects — the unemployment rate among the 125 participants was nearly halved. Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania studying the program concluded it could have “profound positive impacts on local public health.”

    https://www.businessinsider.com/universal-basic-income-works-red-state-blue-state-2023-10?op=1

    https://gizmodo.com/universal-basic-income-has-been-tried-over-and-over-aga-1851255547

    https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/multiple-countries-have-tested-universal-basic-income-and-it-works

    The biggest problem I see - folks hung up on what people “deserve.” I got news for you - no one deserves to be a billionaire. No one.






  • I swear in SMS on the daily, and have shared videos of pro-Palestine protests via sms also. I’m a bit dubious. I did read the article, and it sounds like one carrier-specific issue, and (unsurprisingly) MS allowing enterprise customers to control what is said on Teams.

    So two examples that are each either platform or carrier specific.