Don’t all users of self-hosted personal knowledge management systems have a hacker mindset?

We need somebody who records them and posts them otherwise we must simply copy the urls from Reddit lol

I just googled it for Messi. I assume it’s available for a smattering of top forwards.

You’re right, I am sorry about being hostile. I should have been more light hearted about it. I just thought that it’s another hyperbolic post contriving to exxagerate how good a player is, just like a lot of Twitter posts.

However, I disagree that cherry picking data would improve your analysis. Include all the years, but weight them properly (as the overall G/xG would).

Keep up the OC. Sorry again and cheers!

I don’t think the claim that Son is one of the best finishers ever is BS or fraudulent.

I think that summing xG over performance by season is very very poor math. For instance, if Son scored 20 goals on 10 xG in one season followed by 0 goals on 1 xG, you would sum those to have an over performance of 0%. When in reality proper counting techniques should state 20 goals on a total of 11 xG for over performance of 82%.

The mathematical “technique” you chose grossly inflates his numbers compared to other finishers and grossly short changes Messi over the examined time period.

Son has impressive overperformance of xG but that graphic has very suspect math. Just based off the raw Goals and xG numbers from the graphic:

• Son had a total of 92 goals from 17-18 to 23-24 with an xG of 65.8. That’s an overperformance of 40%.
• Kane had a total of 144 goals from 17-18 to 23-24 with xG of 119.2. That’s an overperformance of 21%.
• Messi had a total of 148 goals from 17-18 to 23-24 with xG of 120.5. That’s an overperformance of 23%.
• Mbappe had a total of 156 goals from 17-18 to 23-24 with xG of 136.7. That’s an overperformance of 14%.

This summing of xG from season to season and averaging of xG from season to season is total BS. Especially considering some of the injury plagued seasons by both players they played very few games, for instance Messi this year.

So yes, Son is a great finisher but please don’t bring this fraudulent math and claim he’s so head and shoulders above everyone else. Also, an argument can be made that scorers lose efficiency when they attempt higher volume, so I’d like to see him replicate that efficiency with a higher goal output.

Lastly, here’s a chart with Messi’s goals and xG so we can compare in the same age range (25-31).

From 12-13 to 18-19 Messi had a total of 250 goals with an xG of 185.02. That’s an overperformance of 35% with more than twice the output. Obviously it’s debatable but I think peak Messi is a better finisher than Son, and current Messi is not too far behind son despite being 5 years older.

I feel for him. He used to be easily fast enough to defend something like that.