Telegram is the best social network. Not so much a private messenger.

As for risks… http://kremlingram.org/ has the Russian ties well-documented, even if theystretch the evidence at times, the latest border cross leaks are proofs enough

Again, the materials are in public groups. Anyone with an account can see them. If we imagine that Telegram had the same functionality as it does now over E2EE, the offending users would be sharing their keys in public, and Telegram would still be as viable.

Telegram deserves some pushback for misrepresenting themselves as secure (and for lying about their connections to Russia), but I wish Moxie fanboys were able to talk about Telegram without shouting “it’s not E2EE” over and over because they don’t understand it’s a social network disguised as a messenger.

Sure, here’s the original investigation on its Russian origin: https://dou-ua.translate.goog/forums/topic/38748/?_x_tr_sl=uk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US (Dou is the ukrainian IT forum).

Note I didn’t claim anything about technical security. It’s more of an ethical issue. Even if it’s FOSS (which, as seen in the other subthread, its merely pretending to be), it’s helping russian government.

If you want to consider security — security starts with trust. And GRU/FSB will infiltrate and use any segment of supply chain it has in its reach, being less constrained with any laws than NSA. Are you sure that malicious code will be caught in time like with xz?

No love for russian sanction-bypass product