Follow-up: teach them to learn to troubleshoot and search. Take the fear of breaking something from them by providing them with a VM with windows where they need to fix something or install a driver. Provide them with a Linux VM just for them to try too.

Teach them mistrust. Make them upload things to a copy of Google docs or something, and then show how you have access to everything.

Teach them about open source as a precondition for being able to trust software.

I would go with tasks where they get to “hack” or learn about each other. Give them usb sticks, make them put a silly trivia on an encrypted 7z with passwords that are somewhat crackable. Then, take their usbs from them, and distribute them randomly, and let them use jack the ripper or so. Twist, you would have added a virus or something into the USB stick, so they get infected with a “silly pop up” once they start jack the ripper. They get to play, and the exercise will stick with them.

Teach them about 10 minute mails pages, to open a silly account t somewhere.

Make them use a VPN like mullvad or some that you have set up to access a specific page or make web searches. They can notice the difference in content depending on the country they are exiting with. Twist: you control the VPN, provide them at the end with a list of accessed pages so they understand how the vpns do not ensure privacy. Explain simply what a VPN is (tunnel,etc).

Not even, it will suffocate on its own by having the capitalists keeping their changes from each other. Like a bucket of crabs; where if one crab is about to get free the others grab onto it and pull it down.

Kernels really benefit from being “forced” to share the code changes as the GPL license, they are too tied to HW, and HW needs a lot of capital when iterating.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/04/06/it-looks-like-signal-isnt-as-open-source-as-you-thought-it-was-anymore/

https://www.xda-developers.com/signal-updates-public-server-code/

https://tech.hindustantimes.com/mobile/news/signal-updates-its-open-source-server-code-after-nearly-a-year-71617778373810.html

Look into their MobileCoin and how they implemented it. They are just banking on people forgetting about it.

Anybody pulling these antics with a cryptography product loses my (and others) trust immediately. I’m a security soft dev, and my colleagues and I migrated to Element and Matrix network when it happened. I remember the disgust vividly.

Of course all of this is not going to be the Signal wikipedia page… It’s amazing how their fanbois work.

That argument makes absolutely no sense. These server-side code does almost nothing. The only task it really has is passing around encrypted packets between clients.

So it knows about all metadata, plus registration with phone number, etc. got it.

The Signal protocol, which is used for client-side, local, on-device end-to-end encryption has always been fully open, and it can be used by any app/platform.

you conveniently leave out how you need to use the client built by Signal, with dependencies from Google Services and the like, and you can’t use one built from the source they provide. Which at that point means they can introduce whatever they want in whichever version.

Decentralisation is the only safe way.

And before lacked this and that. It keeps improving, contrast to Signal having the server code closed source for more than a year so the Signal devs could get a headstart and insider knowledge in their Signal-included crytpo coin grief.

How one can trust Signal after them showcasing what they truly stand for is mind blowing.

Faster than visa into USA from Germany.

Conservatism is dead. Climate change is scientifically proven to be catastrophic.

If we do nothing, change will come to us, and fuck up everything. If we elect to change our society and systems, we save ourselves but our way of living changes.

One way or another there’s change. There’s nothing to conserve. Stop yelling and kicking like an irrational kid trying to save conservatism and crony capitalism.

I will not buy Nintendo ever again. I’m glad they have sullied their own name.

You perfectly can sell GPL code. And you can double-license yourself (provided that you are the copyright holder) as GPL and a privative license. A lot of companies do that, legally and correctly.

You can sell GPL code. Even if you aren’t the author. What you must do is share the code with those customers though.

Accesibilty is also key for automated end-to-end tests, too.

Yesterday they enabled monitoring of all messages in their servers. It was obvious before, but now they are getting even more 1984. Communities should migrate as soon as possible.

He didn’t want Signal on FDroid because surprise surprise he just wanted to roll their own crypto coin with insiders knowledge. You can’t do that with open source so easily. There’s a reason they didn’t publish code for years. That people still support those crooks, who have lost all credibility, for a privacy app, baffles me.

Thank god we have Matrix now.

my private desktop Linux installs still occasionally bork themselves for no good reason and require a reinstall

Edit: oh, you aren’t even OP. But I see I triggered you. And you have repeated the same you are saying in the parallel comment? Are you here reading all comments to this specific comment?

how to tell you are using Arch without saying it. Don’t use a rolling release on your own if you aren’t willing to pay the maintenance cost. edit: no, I’m not an ubuntu user.

I have a pinephone (not pro) collecting dust, because it’s nowhere near as usable for anything, sadly. But I look forward to linux on phones. I recommend a OnePlus 6 with your choice of linux on phones to be honest.

Oh, you. I remember you from another thread the other week, saying how Chromium is not Chrome and that this would never happen. Hi. It is happening. Also, I remember telling you to stop moving goalposts, which is what you are doing here.

Microsoft would be happy to pay Firefox to set Bing as default (has happened in the past already) so even your goalpost moving is moot.

Come on, wake up.

but they did sound the alarm? Debian took Chromium out of their repos for a time because they found unreported telemetry sent encrypted back to Google. All the info is on the net. You just need to read it.

Of course I have. I’ve never found any substantiation, which is why I’m asking. I use them every day so I would certainly like to know if there is, but the concerns I constantly see only apply to Chrome, and not Chromium-based browsers.

Just run WIreshark against your Chromium then. Enjoy.

This is specifically for the Chromium browser, not Chromium-based browsers. I know, it’s confusing. Chromium is basically just the open-sourced version of Chrome.

Did you read the link I posted?

Let me copy-paste directly from the Chromium office page for you then:

Additional Information on Chromium, Google Chrome, and Privacy

Features that communicate with Google made available through the compilation of code in Chromium are subject to the Google Privacy Policy.

There, you have it. Now you can try moving more goalposts again, and provide excuses for them.

This is yet another item attributed to Chrome and it’s users. You can totally create a Chromium fork that adheres to conventional standards.

Nah it’s not. I’m talking about Google pushing and implementing IETF standards that hamstring privacy. They are open standards, but they are malicious. That a standard is open doesn’t mean is doing things that are not ethical.

To me, it’s obvious that you don’t even want to look for proof. Why so hell-bent on taking the stance of a state-level billionare corporation built by extracting privacy from users? How do you think they got there?

Or do you have something specific against the legal non-profit organization that is Mozilla?