if they just gave Russia a bit of respect

Too racist for that, fortunately

Lol isn’t there a faction in the Republicans that basically wants the opposite (getting Russia to help them against China)?

Unfortunately Lenin came before Xi. Marxism-Xism would’ve sounded much funnier than Marxism-Leninism

This leftist meme goes hard and it takes less than one minute to read! o7

:an-tifa:

They take a socialist country that exists in a predominantly capitalist world and which has to contend with that reality, and purity-test it against socialism on paper, abstracted from reality

Even though they’re self-professed leftists, they can’t get over their racism and western supremacism so easily 🤷

Nazis are just DOP fascists

That was my initial thought as well. They love calling themselves “NatSoc” so I get uneasy whenever I see that term

Literally the same BS in the previous UK elections, rich people in the news “threatening to leave the country” if Corbyn would’ve won, “oh no, not the rich, anyone else but the rich.” Clowns

This is too broad a topic to have any meaningful discussion on in a comment thread, but I’d start with a few things:

1. Are you looking for new perspectives, or are you looking to debate? The former implies you’re willing to change your stance, the latter does not.
2. Define “capitalism”, “communism” and “good”. As a minimum to starting such a discussion, everyone participating should be on the same page regarding the topic, but these are terms that have wildly different meanings for a lot of people (not so much on this instance).
3. Pick a specific theme to discuss - what do you support most about capitalism? What is your greatest issue with communism? Anything you’re specifically interested in? As I said, it’s a broad topic, so in order to have any constructive discussion, it needs to be narrowed down.

By and large, tech workers specifically are some of the least amenable to class consciousness I have ever seen- believe me, I’ve tried.

Same here. I swear, working in tech as a communist will drive you insane sooner or later. All the colleagues I’ve worked with range from grindset hustlers, “work hard” types who gladly chug the corporate koolaid, liberals who conscientiously read mainstream media to “stay informed and not fall for propaganda” i.e. they tow the US line on Ukraine, Palestine, China etc - all the way to manosphere chuds, anti-communists and ancap cryptobros and, presumably, crypto-fascists.

I’ve tried spreading a little class consciousness here and there, but it’s hard and if you use a word that sounds just slightly socialist, the discussion is over most of the times.

The incentives to radicalize are just not there. The pay is relatively good, KPIs and decent raises and title changes give you the impression of meritocracy, the job tends to be mentally draining, and often tech workers are passionate about tech and have it as a hobby in their free time. So this usually means less paying attention to current events beyond the easily accessible mainstream news (because it’s easier to stay in the same tech context in your spare time, or just chill), and more belief that the system is working and that the poors can be disregarded because it’s their failure, not a systemic issue.

Ngl, your lists are lit

Amazing, been looking for something like this. Thank you!

I got called a vatnik irl for pointing out there are neonazis in Ukraine and that Western media reported on them before 2022

And it’s usually the same people that make appeals to nature wherever they can, not just when defending capitalism. Funny how easily they contradict themselves

Whoever wrote that vile piece of digital toilet paper must’ve initially added two lightning bolt emojis next to each other before it got redacted