I see. This is the level of understanding we’re dealing with.

I know all that. That’s why a said as a country, not a nation-state; to differentiate between national culture and government It was the nation-state that started in 1789. I’m not wasting any more time arguing with you. It’s clear we won’t understand each other.

When do you think America (as a country, not a nation-state) started? And what makes yours more factual than the 1619 narrative?

Their people didn’t see it. Information silos.

American English is distinct from other English, so our vocabulary has no bearing on the rest of the world, but you can also get your linguistic prescriptivism out of our dialect. Language (and the meanings of words) are co-created by speakers. Ask any reputable linguist. And in American English, for political and cultural reasons, the meanings of “conservative” and “fascist” have converged in many ways.

Tell me you don’t understand LLMs or education without telling me.

Ah yes, well-researched history about topics that make white conservatives uncomfortable. That “alternate history”? What do you think is false in the 1619 project? I’m curious.

Let’s say there’s a spectrum, left to center to right, and there are a hundred political positions evenly distributed between the center and each extreme. I’m willing to accept that schools are 10 places over to the left, because “treat all people equitably” is both a left value and a necessary part of living in a free society. But this response is to pick a position maybe seventy slots over onn the right, and pretend that’s equivalent to the “left propaganda” of “Billy has two mommies, and that’s ok.”

I want my IWW-sponsored curriculum! If we have to deal with this shit, it should at least be real.

On another thread, a guy literally tried to defend this by saying “kids constantly get left-wing indocrination.” Are right wing nuts actually unaware how unbalanced the US right and left are in terms of extremism? They can’t really believe what they’re saying, right?

One can be evil and stupid.

Because what defines mainstream social media is more the algorithms and ads than the participants?

Right? “Bro, you’re not treated like a leader because you have leadership skills. You’re treated like a leader because you have money and power, which would be largely useless if this political/social/economic system collapsed. Plus, you just made clear that you’re looking forward to a future with slaves. Maybe try therapy?”