All are welcome here was a campaign for welcoming refugees, I think. The no trespassing was for people wanting to fish from the river bank on their property that bordered public land, most of whom are first generation immigrants, Hispanic or Hmong. I interpreted it “people are welcome in our country, just not like, HERE.” I mean, I get it, but it had some of the same energy as this post.

I saw a yard sign once that said “all are welcome here”, right next to the “no trespassing” sign. Struck me as contradictory and made me curious what it meant to them.

Lol you answered nothing at all. Did you even read my original question?

He is deporting Americans? That’s your argument? What does it take to become American?

How or by what were they forced to leave their country?

What refugees?

The world doesn’t work the way you want it to, and it never will, simply because people are too selfish. If it ever happens, it will be because we’ve transcended humanity and become something else.

I’m not sure what you mean. Are you saying that Russians and Palestinians are made to suffer for the crimes of their government and that it should be the same for Jews?

That’s a tough standard. Does that apply to everyone or just jews?

There is no gray area or in between. You are either 100 percent innocent or 100 percent bad.

Do you mean that housing should be provided by the government? By the tax payers? And what about maintenance? Is that also provided by the taxpayers? So they would pay people to come fix up the house you live in for free? I guess I’m just not quite sure how you think it all works.

Yeah they have to want to or it won’t work.

I don’t think you are doing drug addicts any favors by letting them continue to use. Their life is better without that addiction and a healthy society would help them as much as possible and feasible. I’m all for personal freedom, but I don’t view addiction as being free.

In general the concept sounds ok, but I think the reality would make it a death camp since many of those drugs are so addictive that you simply won’t break free on your own, without being forced to quit.

Yeah it’s not like there is one problem and one solution. Some turn to drugs to escape their situation or because they have bad coping mechanisms, while others get into drugs and their life falls apart because of it.

Yeah but the point is if you don’t know how to spend it responsibly, then what good is it? If you spend it on drugs or alcohol because that’s more important to you than shelter, which is the case for serious addicts, then it doesn’t help you. Instead it only enables your addiction and keeps you on the street.

I don’t think it’s so much a moral failing, but one of privilege in the form of being raised in a stable family, having positive role models and being taught basic life skills. If your parents weren’t around to teach you these things or if you were preoccupied with survival as a kid, then you are not equipped to thrive in life. Through no fault of your own. Had you been taught some of these things, then you could be self sufficient. Of course illness, changing job markets, rental costs, inflation, and so on can impact a person’s situation as well, but these can be semi reasonably planned for as well, if you know how.

I’m confused. It sounds like you are disagreeing with me, but basically reworded exactly what I said.

Yes, sometimes, you moron. Did you have anything of value to add to the conversation or is that the extent of your contribution?

Yes, and they require different solutions. UBI is an attempt to solve poverty, but won’t do much for homelessness.