My experience with Linux is something like 4 years of Ubuntu then 8 years of Arch. What kept me in was stability (in the sense that I don’t need to clean install every 6 months) and the wiki which allowed me to learn, a lot.

Although what I sometime don’t enjoy, is the random maintenance burden : every now and then some package you rely on may change how it works (config format, cli interface). You can fix this later by keeping an outdated version but it will eventually need a bit of work. That’s something I don’t mind on my work computer, but on my personal one … I just don’t want more work coming at me when I get home and want to play games.

I’d say the best contribution is they managed to build a mainstream commercial service on top of all of this!

Well, let’s be polite and say it’s not for everyone. TCB13 isn’t the only person to really love this DE 😛

I don’t get the enthousiasm either, there is always to much information for me on the screen and inconsistent UI all over the place 🤷

I really enjoy using systemd and wasn’t an aware linux user before it started getting adopted, but you message really reads like a bad commercial 😅 “begin today your journey through…”

The wiki is what makes it really hard for me to move out. This masterpiece is where I learned 70% of what I know about linux systems 🤷

Doesn’t the browser version do the trick?

I love the direction this is going, I’ve been using i3/sway for years and gnome apps recently became awesome in tiling mode because of their responsiveness. If this is implemented this could definitely get me back on gnome 👍

You mean you never received any major package update on arch ? 😛

More seriously, it depends on what we are talking about, if everything runs in container I agree that it kinda doesn’t matter, you will just have a more up to date kernel, but it is stable enough.

Other peoples on this thread are talking about actual system dependancies, for example installing a postgres server from official repo. On this example it would require a database migration as soon as a major postgres version is released, which means some downtime and non-scheduled maintainance.

I’m surprised to see arch on your list, I know everything runs in containers now but arch seems way too unstable O_o

By unstable I don’t mean “buggy”, but “you will have to adapt to new major version of package XXX or you can’t fetch updates anymore, so no security patches anymore”.

But it lacks some ground rules on crediting original content