yeah I guess I should have been more explicit about that. its no good, very unsafe. But other types of structures can accomodate wood stoves with some effort

Clinton Cargill

surely not related to that cargill family?? ah who am I kidding its nyt hes defs a billionaire failson

yeah… tents are kinda troublesome, they’re not very resistant to heat, embers, etc so I have a hard time recommending wood stoves if the structure theyre being used in is camping tents.

but I do suspect that providing wood would be much more cost effective in the long run than gasoline.

building wood stoves to the extent that people have structures that can safely accomodate them might be worthwhile but whiz bang stuff like rocket stoves are not it for an encampment in my opinion, too much complexity for something that might just get tossed by pigs next week, all to save a little bit of wood which can often be gotten for free

the yurt zine is cool, but a big project depending on the size of y9ur org. I could probably find the group that made it, they are doing similar work it sounds like to you. And their stove design is dirt cheap (half a barrel and 5 pieces of stovepipe)

running a generator and electric heating is dramatically inefficient. only advantage is no carbon monoxide in the tent/structure, but it doesnt take a ton of airflow to keep that from being a problem with propane, and any reasonable wood stove also doesnt have that issue. plus monoxide detectors are like $3 on aliexpress if it becomes an issue. propane can be a bit scary (tent fires and tank explosions) in an encampment scenario but it beats freezing to death certainly

is it a tent situation primarily or are there other structures that can more readily be insulated? even just a shitload of blankets makes decent insulation if done well

also all depends how harsh the winters are there.

I’ve seen a zine online of how to make a yurt with a woodstove for exactly this use case. but that doesnt eliminate the need to provide insulation (a tarp layer or two and then blankets mostly) and firewood. the advantage there is it can house a few people per so they can share heat, and its a much sturdier structure than a tent and is designed around the wood stove so it doesnt catch on fire.

edit: here’s the zine: https://files.catbox.moe/1t9148.pdf

if there are more permanent structures in place those RVing diesel heaters might also make sense but might not be cheap enough/trivial to set up.

I hate this website sometimes. I typed out a whole reply and then clicked cancel accidentally lol

Anyhow, I can totally see where you would get that impression but I think you are kinda assuming the worst. I don’t personally know anyone that thinks “everyone should have kids even if they don’t think they want to” or anything remotely like that, and zifnab seems like a good dude, so I was more charitable in my reading. It was pretty clear to me that he was countering the increasingly deranged posts about how awful having kids is and nobody should do it by citing his own experience and those of people around him, not saying that that poster in particular, or “everyone always”, should have kids. Just reinforcing that it isn’t an inherently miserable experience, quite the opposite, for many it turns out to be very rewarding.

raising kids should not be seen as a way of finding meaning for the sake of finding meaning,

Good thing he didn’t say that then. It’s a fundamental part of life because it literally enables the existence of future generations of humanity. Human life doesn’t happen without parents. It’s fine to not want kids, its not a fundamental part of every single individual’s life, but it is a fundamental part of life as a whole, for the species.

it’s ominous but under no circumstances should you side with the “pro-lgbt bourgeoisie”

I think the critical mistake here is assuming that corporations are in some way democratic and are simply listening to consumers. They aren’t. If anything I’d just say that the media winds are shifting moreso than actual opinions shifting en masse (the media do froth up a dangerous minority of chuds into a rage causing actual danger tho)