SimpleX Chat: private and secure messenger without any user IDs (not even random)
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SimpleX Chat - a private and encrypted messenger without any user IDs (not even random ones)! Make a private connection via link / QR code to send messages and make calls.

SimpleX Chat is an instant messenger that is decentralized and doesn’t depend on any unique identifiers such as phone numbers or usernames. Users of SimpleX Chat can scan a QR code or click an invite link to participate in group conversations.

-privacyguides.org

It’s clearly proving to be the most innovative technology when it comes to decentralized communication, in my opinion.

  • Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works
    6919·
    8 months ago

    this is a wrong take for a few reasons, if we’re talking about trust.

    Also, Signal literally was taking money from the CIA for a decade and also is based in the US anyway, and no one hardly said a word 🤣🤣 “Privacy” activists are a joke lmao. Also signal made a crypto coin and took away features like SMS, but of course they get a free pass for that too. Makes you wonder.

    1. SimpleX is fully open source, verifiable, and audited. If there are changes that are bad, the community will talk about them, and at worst it can be forked

    2. SimpleX has made it clear that they dont want you to trust them. It’s decentralised and anyone can run their own relay, and the servers are designed prevent correlation. They also make it very easy to use TOR and multiple circuits. This is contrary to the inferior Signal model where you just have to trust that the centralized Signal org isnt leaking your phone and IP to the feds.

    moving towards a decentralised, open, and trustless world is better for everyone. In this kind of system, I really dont give a damn where they are getting their money from, as long as they arent putting crap in the software, and if they do, we will all know about it. But so far they have shown that they are committed to extreme security and privacy, and they obviously arent trying to appeal to normies, so i doubt they would ever even try to put VC-pushed garbage in.

    If you want a good app, you will need funding from somewhere. Look at apps like Session that arent funded well. They suck. So I’d rather SimpleX be funded by a VC instead of by the feds like Signal, as long as everything stays open, free, trustless, and decentralised

    Time to get downvoted! See you guys at -50 😁

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
      267·
      8 months ago

      Where did I even mention Signal? Total strawman argument, as I don’t think Signal is a good option either.

      But you go ahead and trust Simplex Chat Ltd. I guess some people only learn from their own mistakes 🤷‍♂️

      • Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works
        229·
        8 months ago

        you completely ignored what i said, as I specifically argued that simplex is made to be used without trust. so dont talk about me trusting people lol.

        Also I agree with you on Signal, was just throwing it out there for others, not necessarily for you.

        • poVoq@slrpnk.net
          639·
          8 months ago

          You walked right into my deliberate rethorical trap 😅

          There is no such thing as trustless computing, and anyone that tries to sell you that is scamming you or drank the same kool-aid.

    • SolarPunker@slrpnk.netOP
      124·
      8 months ago

      Exactly what I thought; if the technology is so decentralized does it make sense to care so much about who finances the project? Like if one instance of lemmy was funded by Microsoft, we could easily use another one and block it, right?

      • Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        7 months ago

        originally it was. but it was given to the larger community as an open project, because they realized that without public use, it would be useless.

        There is endless discussion on whether tor software is backdoored or not, but I severely doubt this with all the eyes on the open source code

        There is also debate on how many nodes are owned by the feds, but the largest estimates at the peak were about 20%ish iirc. i doubt it’s a significant number enough to worry about, from what I’ve seen.

        tldr I’d recommend to look up all the opinions online yourself.

    • uzi@lemmy.ca
      44·
      8 months ago

      I’m in full agreement with you. Not even a little bit of disagreement.