But it seems like every fucking day there’s a new video of drones blowing up cars, snipers shooting kids, POW’s getting murdered. Generals should have known that letting cameras on a battlefield was a bad idea since Vietnam. Now personally I think it’s good this stuff is being documented, not like I want it to happen or want to see it but at least there’s evidence, but I’m thinking from a warmongers perspective, why would you want footage of war to be so wildly disseminated? How hard is it to take away a phone from a soldier? I don’t know how to feel about this, I just know it’s an incredibly wide security gap that no army is willing to plug.

  • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.netEnglish
    22·
    8 months ago

    call me old fashioned but i wouldnt let anyone in my military have personal communication devices, period.

    i think this comes from poorly organized/disciplined forces, AFU and IOF are afraid of mass desertion/insubordination if they crack down too hard, and the actual organization is janky enough personal phones can help, see Ukrainian artillery aiming with an app

    but is this as much of a problem with Russia and the US?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      20·
      8 months ago

      The US has repeatedly told soldiers to stop using fitness tracking apps among many others bc it’s sending detailed information about movements on military bases to various companies.

  • robinn_IV [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    17·
    8 months ago

    IDF soldiers are so brain-broken that the only reason they fight enthusiastically is to get dynamic backdrops for their TikToks. Take away their phones and the settler state crumbles.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    17·
    8 months ago

    Generals should have known that letting cameras on a battlefield was a bad idea since Vietnam

    They do; Gaza is not Vietnam; the average American was against war crimes in Vietnam and valued some imagined right to ignorance of them. The average Israeli however celebrates war crimes, they are not at all horrified by the videos of civilians being gunned down, homes being destroyed, or of starving civilians; to them, babies are just ‘terrorists’ waiting to be old enough.

    Also never mind the IOF; Israeli journalists, politicians and citizens who get airtime openly talk about wiping Gaza off the map and taking the land for themselves, and that Arabs are just savage hordes. They also know they can get away with it because our democrat president is saying he’s going to let them get away with it; democrats are the most likely to revise ties with Israel (because of the facade of progressiveness) and even democrats won’t do it. They know they can do whatever they want.

  • D61 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    8·
    8 months ago

    Back in the early 2000’s we’d have sledehammer parties where we’d dig through everybody’s shit after we deployed somewhere we weren’t supposed to have unsecured communications and publicly smash the shit out of all the cellphones we could confiscate.

    Now? Cellphones are super cheap, readily available, and the cultural shift to just accepting them absolutely everywhere and at all times made its way into being accepted.

    Smart phones and dumb phones with camera/video recording functions got to the point that everybody wanted to (and could more easily) capture moments of “history” regardless of consequence.

    How hard is it to take away a phone from a soldier? I don’t know how to feel about this, I just know it’s an incredibly wide security gap that no army is willing to plug.

    They are cheap and plentiful. Taking a phone away is one thing, but keeping them from getting another one? That’s a losing battle.