• Shiggles@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    As long as you aren’t somehow deluded into thinking trump would somehow be better, you can say or think whatever you like.

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      4 months ago

      I mean, you can even say or think Trump would be better, too, if you want; it’s a free country^1. But, also, I would ridicule you because you’re deluded.


      1 assumes you live in a free country; if in the USA, terms and conditions apply.

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        4 months ago

        Cool! Do whatever you please until it comes down to the actual presidential election. Then, understand our very flawed political system has very limited options, and one is clearly significantly worse no matter what qualms you may have with the other.

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          4 months ago

          Biden can do whatever he wants. And people will vote accordingly. It is Biden’s responsibility to win people’s votes.

          People need to start showing Biden in the polls that he needs to address this issue. If Biden does not fix it he will 100% lose the elections Michigan has already proven that to us.

          Once the issue is gone, people like me will stop complaining about Biden and start complaining about Trump again.

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            4 months ago

            I’m not quite as pessimistic about it as you are. Regardless, not voting for biden is a vote for trump: it sucks, I don’t like it, but pretending anything else is reality is copium at best and actively aiding fascism at worst.

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              4 months ago

              Pretending that Biden supporting Genocide isn’t Fascism is the real copium and actively aiding fascism.

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                4 months ago

                You have two candidates supporting genocide in Palestine and one that also supports genocide in Ukraine as well as concentration camps at home.

                See it as an harm reduction mechanism, not an enthusiastic support. If you can’t land the plane safely, choose to crash on the river rather than on the kindergarten.

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                  4 months ago

                  You have two candidates supporting Genocide.

                  But only one of them has a voting base that will support it.

                  So you have one candidate that can support Genocide. And that’s Trump.

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                    4 months ago

                    And to be fair, I doubt Biden would support it personally if he had the political ways not to.

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            He can. And if you don’t vote for Biden because he’s bad, then Trump will win, Palestine will be genocided, Ukraine will be genocided, trans and gay people will be genocided. Biden will have lost nothing, meanwhile. He doesn’t really want to be the president again anyway, and he’s not Palestinian, Ukrainian, trans or gay.

            You’ll sit back, sip your martini and be “wow, look at all those genocides! Good thing I didn’t vote for Biden!”

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              4 months ago

              Go tell Biden to stop his Genocide instead of spending your energy defending it.

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                I did. He didn’t listen. That’s why I’m planning to not vote, and let several concurrent genocides happen that I could’ve stopped by voting for Biden because if it isn’t going to stop all 8 genocides, what’s the point of only stopping 7?

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                  Try telling Biden again. Don’t forget to tell him that he will not win unless he stops his Genocide and that makes you really sad because even though you don’t care about Brown people being Genocided, surely we can’t risk a White person being Genocided.