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    5 months ago

    Most clever response yet! He didn’t hurt your democracy though, he didn’t try to keep the opposition off the ballot.

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          Armed with what?

          Guns, knives, blunt weapons, tasers, bear spray, hand cuffs and zip ties.

          Taking the stand in the seditious conspiracy case against Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and four associates, Terry Cummings showed jurors an AR-15 firearm and an orange box for ammunition that he contributed to the so-called quick reaction force the Oath Keepers had staged at the hotel outside of Washington in case they needed weapons.

          I had not seen that many weapons in one location since I was in the military,” said Cummings, a veteran who joined the Oath Keepers in Florida in 2020.

          https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-florida-virginia-conspiracy-government-and-politics-6ac80882e8cf61af36be6c46252ac24c

          But a review of the federal charges against the alleged rioters shows that they did come armed, and with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs. An additional suspect also allegedly planted pipe bombs by the headquarters of the Democratic and Republican parties the night before the riot and remains at large.

          https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used

          Online sleuths who have aided in hundreds of Jan. 6 prosecutions say he is the same man they identified to the FBI who is currently individual No. 200 on the bureau’s Capitol Violence page, which he first appeared on three years ago. Videos and photographs from the Capitol on Jan. 6 showed him with what appears to be a gun in his waistband. As NBC News previously reported, that man, John Emanuel Banuelos, told Salt Lake City police that he was at the Capitol and had been captured on film with a gun. “I was in the D.C. riots,” he told the investigators, according to a police transcript. “I’m the one in the video with the gun right here.”

          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/new-jan-6-footage-appears-show-rioter-firing-gun-air-capitol-attack-rcna138137

          And I recall Hillary’s plot to get electors to “vote their concious”

          The source you’ve linked quotes Martin Sheen and other “celebrities”, not Hillary Clinton, who conceded the election as someone who believed in democracy would (despite being much more popular than Trump and winning the national vote by millions).

          Also, you should know that official electors are not always bound. As a Trump voter I know you’re not big on education or knowledge, but if you want you can read all about unpledged electors here.

          Meanwhile, what Trump and his gang of indicted co-conspirators did was to submit a slate of fraudulent and fake electors to the election certification process in order to literally steal swing state electoral college votes and appoint himself President. Or as he likes to say “dictator on day one”.

          Here’s a list of the names of the fraudulent electors in each state that Trump tried to overthrow.

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            She still calls him an “illegitimate president”

            The “dictator on day one” statement was made as a joke, but you know libs, no sense of humor.

            I’m well aware that official electors are not bound. Precisely why Charlie Sheen and others made that video. With her fingerprints all over it.

            Were any weapons brandished at the capitol riot, let alone a firearm? I’m sure the streets of DC are 100% completely free of any type of weapon, because, laws. Seems leaving your weapons in a hotel room would be pretty stupid if you’re going to commit an “insurrection”. I’d be willing to wager you cheered when James Hodgkinson shot up the republican softball game, an actual terrorist attack (terrorism being defined as -

            “The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals.”

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      Thanks, but I didn’t need that confirmed by someone who doesn’t know what treason looks like. As to the ballot, it’s no skin off my nose if you want your state to waste every electoral college vote they’re allotted.

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        treason /trē′zən/ noun

        The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts. 
        

        The betrayal of someone’s trust or confidence.

        The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance, or of betraying the state into the hands of a foreign power; disloyalty; treachery.

        Seems the one libs are all hanging their hat on is the 1st part of point 3. However, Trump was president on 1/6/21, so who was he trying to overthrow? Himself? Has he attempted to overthrow Biden in the ensuing years? If calling the election “rigged” can be construed as such, you’ve got an even bigger problem on your hands as Raskin, Waters, Schiff, among others, did the same in 2016, so they’re traitors?

        Now, if you want to talk about how Biden withheld a billion dollars from Ukraine unless the prosecutor investigating Burisma, and is now dumping billions of our dollars over there… and remember kids, Ukraine has never been our ally. If you feel it’s prudent to start another proxy war with Russia, ask Afghanistan how that turned out.