I hope this is a clear enough description of what I’m asking.

lemmy.world users can still make new posts in @beehaw.org communities, which are only hosted on lemmy.world and there is no indication in the UI that those communities are a ‘false’ version, only visible to other lemmy.world users

The posts made by lemmy.world users to @beehaw.org communities are not hosted on the ‘true’ beehaw instance. The ‘true’ community is moderated by beehaw mods. The ‘false’ community is moderated by who?

lemmy.world never had moderators for these communities because they were beehaw.org communities.

So who is moderating these posts?

If I had to report a user for breaking community rules, who receives that user report?

Examples of posts in beehaw communities by world users after defederation

https://lemmy.world/post/172609

https://lemmy.world/post/167045

https://lemmy.world/post/158352

https://lemmy.world/post/185750

https://lemmy.world/post/162320

  • PriorProject@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    First off, this is the wrong sub for this question. See the sidebar, but this is a kind of random discussion sub for lemmings, similar to /r/AskReddit/. The Lemmy or lemmysupport communities would be better locations, as would the meta community on lemmy.world… which is called lemmyworld (and unfortunately has lots of off-topic junk in it right now). But your question is an important one, so I’ll weigh in here.

    I’m not 100% certain, but I expect these zombie communities are unmoderated. The right thing to do would be for reports to go to instance-admins, but I’d be surprised if Lemmy covered this edge case correctly right now. I think there’s a decent chance you may have to at-mention or DM an instance admin to get posts/comments in these orphaned communities addressed, and also that admins on affected servers should consider purging them to address this issue of lack of moderation.

    This is one more example of how this split increases moderation load network-wide, and how Beehaw is offloading the costs of their unsustainable moderation policies to others.

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      I’ve had some thoughts pop up when reading the post and your reply.
      So beehaw said this may be temporary… But I can’t help to wonder what that means.
      Let’s say lemmy.world closes registrations and beehaw refederates. Are they going to be flooded with all the posts that happened while we were defederated?
      The amount of stuff suddenly appearing everywhere would be unmoderatable, and if I’m not wrong, it also kind of makes defederation permanent if it goes on for too long. Who would want to refederate instances and tsunami their own with things they don’t know about?

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    This Beehaw/Lemmy.World issue is seriously making me lose faith in Lemmy as a platform. I don’t see how Lemmy can grow when server admins have the ability to basically nuke other servers and ruin the experience for everyone on that server, without those users even realizing what’s going on. I don’t know what the solution is, but this seems like a major problem.