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No, masculinity did.
(Okay, I’m over-simplifying, just watch the video!)
First, may I suggest that people posting videos post a brief synopsis rather than just the title? From the title this sounds like a typical MRA/Andrew Tate kind of video. From the comment discussion I’m assuming it’s not, but my instinct was to just skip it based on that. A short burst of text that I can read in a few seconds is enough to let me know whether I should watch something when I have time, or just skip it.
Second, by reading the comments, it seems like it’s not actually MRA. If that’s the case, then I recommend that interested parties look into the men’s liberation movement. Unlike MRA, men’s lib is designed specifically to be supportive of and build off of the women’s liberation movement and specifically address issues like toxic masculinity, honor culture, rape culture, and so on. It’s intended to take an intersectional approach to the social and health problems men face and address them in a whole-of-society fashion inclusive of gender diversity and sexual preferences. There was a thriving community on that other site for it where people could have both heartfelt and informed discussions as to what defines masculinity, how it’s been realized throughout history and cross-culturally, and how things like southern culture or Christian conservative politics exploit particular versions of the idea to promote the violence and static structure associated with the patriarchy.
It’s quite the opposite of Andrew Tate. It’s a discussion of how masculinity “breaks men so they can break others”, done by a gay leftist trans man with a sociology background. So not only does he know what it’s like to move from being treated as a girl to being treated as a boy and the emotional toll it takes, he also brings the gender euphoria typical for us trans folks to the table, and that POV turns out to be a pretty powerful analytic perspective. He takes masculinity apart from a feminist vantage point, there’s a lot of bell hooks in the vid, but while he understands the ins and outs of toxic masculinity he also genuinely loves being a dude, and that leads to the kind of heartfelt and informed discussion about masculinity you’re describing.
I think that’s fantastic. I’m just suggesting that, if exactly this text had been posted alongside the video, I and possibly others would have wanted to watch it. My threshold for watching a video - especially these days given the proliferation of monetized over the top MRA videos and such - is higher than that for some text. If I’m with someone, I have to either stick it in a queue for later watching or find some headphones, I can’t watch it from the back of an Uber or in public, and so on.
I will end up watching this when I can. It also sounds exactly aligned with the men’s lib movement.
I realize that. I’m suggesting that the perspective might be made clear for people who are not in an environment or time situation where they need to watch a video in order to see whether they want to watch a video, or who do not want to give views to potentially misogynistic content.
Oh, no worries! It’s no bother. It’s just a suggestion that might garner getting more views, and I do think this is important content that more people should see.
I literally explained why that’s an unreasonable expectation. Posting a headline-only news article is one thing - it’s at least something I can read in just about any context and I’m reading anyway - but even that’s not as good as posting an article with a summary or some sample paragraphs. Posting a video with some clickbait or one liner description is all but useless.
First, may I suggest that people posting videos post a brief synopsis rather than just the title? From the title this sounds like a typical MRA/Andrew Tate kind of video. From the comment discussion I’m assuming it’s not, but my instinct was to just skip it based on that. A short burst of text that I can read in a few seconds is enough to let me know whether I should watch something when I have time, or just skip it.
Second, by reading the comments, it seems like it’s not actually MRA. If that’s the case, then I recommend that interested parties look into the men’s liberation movement. Unlike MRA, men’s lib is designed specifically to be supportive of and build off of the women’s liberation movement and specifically address issues like toxic masculinity, honor culture, rape culture, and so on. It’s intended to take an intersectional approach to the social and health problems men face and address them in a whole-of-society fashion inclusive of gender diversity and sexual preferences. There was a thriving community on that other site for it where people could have both heartfelt and informed discussions as to what defines masculinity, how it’s been realized throughout history and cross-culturally, and how things like southern culture or Christian conservative politics exploit particular versions of the idea to promote the violence and static structure associated with the patriarchy.
It’s quite the opposite of Andrew Tate. It’s a discussion of how masculinity “breaks men so they can break others”, done by a gay leftist trans man with a sociology background. So not only does he know what it’s like to move from being treated as a girl to being treated as a boy and the emotional toll it takes, he also brings the gender euphoria typical for us trans folks to the table, and that POV turns out to be a pretty powerful analytic perspective. He takes masculinity apart from a feminist vantage point, there’s a lot of bell hooks in the vid, but while he understands the ins and outs of toxic masculinity he also genuinely loves being a dude, and that leads to the kind of heartfelt and informed discussion about masculinity you’re describing.
I think that’s fantastic. I’m just suggesting that, if exactly this text had been posted alongside the video, I and possibly others would have wanted to watch it. My threshold for watching a video - especially these days given the proliferation of monetized over the top MRA videos and such - is higher than that for some text. If I’m with someone, I have to either stick it in a queue for later watching or find some headphones, I can’t watch it from the back of an Uber or in public, and so on.
I will end up watching this when I can. It also sounds exactly aligned with the men’s lib movement.
Absolutely. That goes for most of the vids posted on here, i wouldn’t have watched it either if i wasn’t familiar with the guy’s work.
Pretty sure the video title is to trick reactionary minded men into watching the video.
This is a fantastic summary/explanation. I also had the wrong idea from the title, but you totally sold me on watching this.
Nobody’s posting MRA shit on hexbear
To be fair I did click on this thinking it was a dunk tank post but yeah
No, it’s not whatever it is you’re describing.
The video is educational all the same (outside of the topic of masculinity).
I realize that. I’m suggesting that the perspective might be made clear for people who are not in an environment or time situation where they need to watch a video in order to see whether they want to watch a video, or who do not want to give views to potentially misogynistic content.
Oh, okay. I will do what you suggested next time, I suppose. Sorry about the bother.
Oh, no worries! It’s no bother. It’s just a suggestion that might garner getting more views, and I do think this is important content that more people should see.
Thank you! And yes, I completely understand. I’m not mad or annoyed or anything.
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I literally explained why that’s an unreasonable expectation. Posting a headline-only news article is one thing - it’s at least something I can read in just about any context and I’m reading anyway - but even that’s not as good as posting an article with a summary or some sample paragraphs. Posting a video with some clickbait or one liner description is all but useless.