And I cannot stress this enough: bury their bones in an unmarked ditch.

Those are original Warhol boxes. Two Brillos, a Motts and a Campbells tomato soup. Multiple millions worth of original art, set on the floor by the front door.

Theres a regular customer whom i do plumbing work for, for the last 3 or 4 years. These belong to her. She also has Cherub Riding a Stag, and a couple other Warhols that i cannot identify, along with other originals by other artists that i also cannot identify. I have to go back to her house this coming Monday, i might get photos of the rest of her art, just so i can figure out what it is.

Even though i dont have an artistic bone in my entire body, i can appreciate art. I have negative feelings on private art like this that im too dumb to elucidate on.

eat the fucking rich. they are good for nothing.

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    I never said Andy Warhol’s art is not art. And you’re not doing “analysis” either by shitting on people that aren’t giving what you think is due praise, awe, and respect for a fed asset that was paid to derail Soviet modernist trends in western colleges.

    Use all the leftist buzzwords you like, you’re not doing anything better than the people that simply don’t like art they find unpleasant (or tedious and repetitive and pretentious).

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      you’re not doing “analysis” either by shitting on people that aren’t giving what you think is due praise, awe, and respect for a fed asset that was paid to derail Soviet modernist trends in western colleges.

      I don’t care what you said, I wasn’t replying to you. I did not say Warhol deserves any awe, praise or respect, but I am shitting on the people blindly reacting that it isn’t art and the commenters like you who smear better-informed opinions as Warhol fanboys. I think he was a talentless hack who had one good idea, beat it to death in the classic capitalist way, and kept making terrible movies long after he should have packed up. There’s my analysis. It’s better than these:

      How is that art, AOCapitulator +8

      I don’t see any art. Art takes effort to make. , m532 +19

      It’s just stacked boxes though how is it art to put a box on top of another, usernamesaredifficul +13 (another one who doesn’t even understand what the object in question is

      Then literally everything is art. […] This position makes discussing art pointless and arbitrary., SchillMenaker +4

      Costco sized boxes of normal ass products are art now? [email protected] +8

      being a plumber is more artistic than those stupid fucking boxes., HexbearGPT +38

      wtf makes those boxes art?, carpoftruth +37

      how are they art? What is the message or feeling or whatever they’re trying to convey?, booty +22

      These are the ideas you two are defending.

      Pinging @VILenin since I don’t feel like writing two comments and yours is what I was responding to. It’s totally cool to think that Warhol is bad art, but this comment goes way beyond that:

      Umm this is Art 101 sweaty, come back to me once you get your certificate that allows you to form opinions on artwork. Everyone knows that the goal of art analysis is to find the objective meaning behind it that proves you wrong. If you don’t have the same reaction I do you’re just too dumb to get it. It’s only a coincidence that the objectively correct interpretations of art perfectly coincide with mine! Everyone is stupid but me

      It’s not a coincidence that people familiar with pop art are able to identify one or more possible meanings for these boxes, and people with 0 context are unable to identify any meaning at all. Art 101 is not brainwashing them to have an objectively correct interpretation, it is giving them the basic conceptual tools to draw their own conclusions.

      In this thread I have argued against these knee-jerk "not art"s. I’m not asking them to get a special Art 101 certificate that licenses them to share their opinion, I’m asking them to go learn what the hell they’re talking about so that they can even begin to form coherent opinions. These people don’t even know what the art in question is, multiple commenters think the Warhol piece art is real boxes stacked in a certain way. They have questions that can be answered by a Wikipedia page. They are pitching half-formed ideas that art has to be pretty, or make you feel a certain way, or involve great technical skill, completely unaware of existing conversation about it. It’s like if somebody on the street decided to invent utilitarianism from first principles. Discussing “what is art” is primarily a pursuit of non-artists and non-critics, just as much as discussion of “what if a computer could feel” is a pastime of non-programmers and non-philosophers. The most asinine rehashing of undeveloped and contradictory ideas, forever. This is what you are defending.

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        but I am shitting on the people blindly reacting

        You’re shitting on them by blindly reacting on them shitting.

        Lots of people that don’t like a specific piece of art may call it “not art” as a subjective take.

        Shitting on them because they don’t like it and went far enough to say that it wasn’t art to them is tiresome self serving snobbery to me, even if I disagree with them and do think something can be art even if one doesn’t like it.

        This is what you are defending.

        I’d rather defend well meaning comrades that happen to not like the pretentious and bleak “the artist is better than you, everything that comes after him owes him for its existence and even your dislike of his work is part of his master plan, dance puppets dance” messaging of the rich fed-subsidized asshole even if they aren’t academically correct in how they say they dislike it, rather than knee-jerk defend the pompous hypocritical elitism of Andy Warhol and his now-establishment status quo fandom.