• nbafantest@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Farming is barely profitable in most of the United States and the level of farming you are thinking about is very expensive.

    Having cheap/affordable food is very good for everyone.

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      11 months ago

      Nice word salad.

      Do you have any thoughts about why food insecurity continues alongside edible food being discarded, or should we keep pretending this is the best of all possible worlds?

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        11 months ago

        Food production IS the best it has ever been, and farming is exceptionally productive.

        Do you have any thoughts about why food insecurity continues alongside edible food being discarded

        I do know it’s not because farmers are some rich powerful group that wants to throw their product away, like OP seems to be suggesting in this Meme. I also know that having farmers just give their product away for free is not a good solution.

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          11 months ago

          Food production has advanced to such a degree that a substantial surplus is generated by only a fraction of the population.

          We are not challenging advancements that support greater worker or resource efficiency, but rather the current systems that organize production and distribution, resulting in severe inequity and stratification across the population.

          Under our current systems, the designation of someone as farmer may seem as ambiguous.

          Labor in agriculture is provided by workers, often quite poor compared to many other workers. They are waged laborers who survive by selling their labor to agribusiness corporations. Such corporations are publicly traded, and ownership of stock is massively concentrated, the majority owned by an extremely narrow cohort of the population.

          Even the few farmers who remain as working their own land have become massively restricted by the practices of the large companies on which they depend for equipment and supplies.

          Food, once produced, is sold by grocers, also large corporations, to other workers who must purchase it from their own wages, from the sale of their own labor to other corporations.

          The massive disparities reproduced through such systems have failed at the one objective most obviously essential for any society, of keeping the population free from needless death.

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            11 months ago

            The massive disparities reproduced through such systems have failed at the one objective most obviously essential for any society, of keeping the population free from needless death.

            This is blatantly false. I’m not even sure it a possibility for there to be famines.

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              11 months ago

              Again, production occurs at surplus, but distribution is immensely stratified.

              Please review my explanation over the difference between advances in production versus the social systems within which occurs the production.

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                  11 months ago

                  What would you recommend instead or as a change?

                  You objected that supply of produced food is sufficient for the whole population, though such is already explained in the brief text of the post.

                  I explained that distribution is inequitable, to such a degree that many remain deprived, though such also was explained.

                  You also objected that capitalism has never been implemented in practice, though the obvious motive of the post, within the context of a tradition of criticizing capitalism, lasting now for approximately two hundred years, is to discuss actual problems that have been ongoing.

                  Indeed, the name for capitalism was given to describe a social system that had emerged, after it had emerged. If it never had emerged, then of course it never would have been identified or described.

                  What problems are you finding now, located in the post itself?

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                    11 months ago

                    The creator of this meme clearly has an issue with Food Producers.

                    You clearly have an issue with Food Distributors.