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      I knew what you meant and your edit doesn’t change the my point at all.

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          Insta-debunk because when it comes to environmental issues, they are very different and this only lists abortion as a difference.

          Of course, it comes as no surprise that “muh both sides”-ers base their arguments on dishonest cherry picking.

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            This administration has opened up a shitload of new oil drilling, weird lanyard nerds coping

            Not to mention the environmental impact of all these new wars

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              Not to mention the environmental impact of all these new wars

              Lol thanks for proving my point that it’s a right wing talking pointing by implicitly blaming the wars on democrats.

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                  They are trying to demonstrate that Democrats don’t care about the environment, which is why they pointed to new oil drilling and then go on to say “not to mention” about the war. Maybe you are right, and they didn’t mean to link it to the Dems, but it pretty clearly did.

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                Aren’t Democrats currently arming one side of the Russo Ukrainian conflict and arming the Israeli occupation? And didn’t those same Democrats increase military funding?

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            Earth is still on track to be completely uninhabitable by the end of the century but hey, Dems pay lip service to climate change so kudos to them!

            dishonest cherry picking

            What part of this image is dishonest? Be specific. You clearly didn’t even bother to look very closely at it, since you failed to notice how your “yeah well what about environmental issues smuglord” rebuttal had already been directly addressed by the very diagram you were responding to.

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              Lol at the smuglord image after posting a sophomoric oversimplified venn diagram while tapping it. You win biggest projection of the day.

              But no it doesn’t actually address it, it mentions climate change, which is one aspect, and still not correct.

              But that being said, just last year the Dems passed the inflation reduction act which was the most significant bill in us history to address climate change.

              But whatever I’m sure is the republicans would have done the same thing.

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                Lol at the smuglord image after posting a sophomoric oversimplified venn diagram while tapping it. You win biggest projection of the day.

                Then how about actually addressing the fucking points? If it’s such a “sophomoric oversimplified venn diagram” as you claim, then explain to the class how it’s sophomoric and oversimplified. Engage with the content and stop being such a coward.

                But that being said, just last year the Dems passed the inflation reduction act

                Reducing greenhouse gas emissions to 40% below 2005 levels aka too little too late. And Biden opened up a bunch of offshore drilling negating any climate impact that bill might have had. Great job, Democrats.

                which was the most significant bill in us history to address climate change.

                You say that like it’s a high bar.

                But whatever I’m sure is the republicans would have done the same thing.

                At least the Republicans are up front about how awful they are and don’t pretend to help by pissing on us as they throw more fuel on the fire.

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                  Then how about actually addressing the fucking points?

                  I’ve never said nor suggested that there was nothing they agree on. While I could quibble about most of “they are the same” points in the middle, and strongly disagree with others, it’s really besides the point. There are things on which they are drastically different.

                  then explain to the class how it’s sophomoric and oversimplified.

                  I literally did, or debunked it as cherry-picked garbage, and you accused me of being a smuglord for doing so. Am I supposed to address every little point on it? Or can I just demonstrate how it is cherry-picked garbage?

                  Reducing greenhouse gas emissions to 40% below 2005 levels aka too little too late.

                  I tend to agree. But all we can do is move forward at this point. But that doesn’t change the fact that with republicans we would do nothing, if not just make policy to make it even worse.

                  You say that like it’s a high bar.

                  No, I did not. You just need to be dismissive of it because it negates your worldview.

                  At least the Republicans are up front about how awful they are and don’t pretend to help by pissing on us as they throw more fuel on the fire.

                  Ah, so we agree both sides are not the same. Good on you for coming around. Although, in a kind of weird way. But, this kind of further proves a belief of mine that “muh both sides” is just an attempt to excuse bad behavior by Republicans so people can justify still voting for them… . and maybe I can add now “despite openly being against their interests.”

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                    There are things on which they are drastically different.

                    Things which Democrats do little to nothing about. Remind me how abortion rights are going, again?

                    Am I supposed to address every little point on it?

                    I’m just asking you to back up the arguments you made, buddy. You insisted the entire diagram I provided was “dishonest” “cherry picking” and “sophomoric” and all I want is for you to do is explain exactly how, which you refuse to do aside from going on about climate change, one point among many that were presented.

                    But that doesn’t change the fact that with republicans we would do nothing.

                    So “doing nothing” and “doing a tiny bit of something then immediately negating it with something worse” are totally different things that we need to respect, got it.

                    Ah, so we agree both sides are not the same

                    “Both parties are the same” means “both parties only serve capital.” This isn’t a very complex point and you only make yourself look foolish by failing to grasp it.