If it is that dire then the reality is that if you don’t call, the children will die. But it’s not awkward because you will never know if you don’t use the service.
The third world only earns more if we buy services back.
If you feel bad that the family starves you can still pay more. But people understand PPP. Your life will be worse than theirs. You paid for chips while they had a real meal.
I don’t know if you can threat people of different cultures in psychology. Like, for example, an Indian therapist is not going to understand the problems an American have because the culture of both are pretty different, and the solutions the therapist propose maybe dosen’t make sense on an American context. Imagine trying to explain to a non American therapist that you have anxiety of being shooted on school or in a traffic incident, that kind of things are pretty foreign for the majority of the rest of the world, even for third world countries.
If a therapist cannot look beyond culture how will they understand what creates the problems in somebody’s life? To get canned answers, a book is enough.
Even within nations, particularly multicultural nations, it’s common to have psychologists who specialise in specific cultures to provide the most appropriate advice. When I studied psychology in Uni we did a segment on psychological differences across cultures and they’re really quite stark. I don’t know enough about Japanese culture to be able to counsel a suicidal salaryman, but I can definitely help others who share my culture look after their mental health.
There are no known psychological truths across cultures. Because our culture heavily impacts our psychology, the two tend to covary. No one therapist can give quality advice to an Anglo farmer, a Sentinelese woman, a Siberian child and a Moroccan man. The cultural contexts just vary too wildly.
Not an expert but this sounds like a behavioral school of thought. It’s a strong statement that there are no psychological truths across cultures. Can you recommend a source where I can learn more about that?
Shouldn’t at least psychoanalysts be able to work across cultures?
But even if knowledge of a culture is needed, there is still the possibility to learn it. Additionally, a view from outside could also be an advantage. Other cultures can have answers to our problems.
I don’t know of any publications that clearly state that there are no universal psychological truths across cultures, but I am yet to find any reputable evidence that there are universal psychological truths across cultures. Hence it’s the null hypothesis that hasn’t been disproven. If it can be disproven, I’d gladly change my assertion, but it’s impossible to prove a negative like this because it is the null hypothesis - it can only be disproven.
Nothing can really be properly proved in psychology anyway because of how soft the science is but also because of the changing nature of the influence of culture on psychology. Even within the same nation or peoples, culture also varies over time and so psychology is always playing catch-up. Social media related mental health issues are a great example - a psychologist who’s been plucked from 1970 and dropped into 2023 would have no idea how to counsel someone on that issue because it’s an entirely foreign concept to them.
Psychologists can absolutely learn and become experts in other cultures, but I think it’s beyond the scope of a single human being to become an expert in every single cultural context that exists. They often become experts in the cultures relevant to them - for example, trying to learn the differences between city/regional/rural issues, trying to understand the needs of LGBTQIA+ people, or learning to better understand CALD communities they’re based in/near.
It may be universal, I’m not sure. I’ve not read any information able to establish that. There are indigenous tribes of people who are not integrated into the global world - we can’t know their psychology as we can’t study them.
$5 is not very much money in 3rd world countries either. If you want to speak to someone with a doctorate you can expect to pay a little more than that.
health insurance almost certainly won’t cover any percentage of a session with a therapist that isn’t on their books
tax. A healthcare professional is generally looking after their own books too. So the only way they will bother dealing with Americans is wmthe incentive of earning in dollars anyway
like others have said, culture differences will play a role in the kind of care you will receive.
recommends for a psychiatrist or meds will need a prescription and that won’t work across borders. You will need to get referred locally too.
a licensed therapist may not be licensed in your country, or worse, may be a hack or a scammer
But it most certainly exists. I’ve got a mate that treats people overseas. I believe there’s also an app that connects you with someone available too. Betterhelp, Talkspace to name a few.
Why is there no option to talk to a third world person for $5 and make it a win for everybody? There is no western monopoly on psychology.
“I will use this $5 to feed my starving family for the next week, what troubles you my Western Child?”
“Damn Doc, couldn’t be me, I spend that on a bag of chips. Doc, I feel better already for not taking such an L, you have a good one 💯”
A valid problem.
If it is that dire then the reality is that if you don’t call, the children will die. But it’s not awkward because you will never know if you don’t use the service.
The third world only earns more if we buy services back.
If you feel bad that the family starves you can still pay more. But people understand PPP. Your life will be worse than theirs. You paid for chips while they had a real meal.
*edited to remove some snark
I don’t know if you can threat people of different cultures in psychology. Like, for example, an Indian therapist is not going to understand the problems an American have because the culture of both are pretty different, and the solutions the therapist propose maybe dosen’t make sense on an American context. Imagine trying to explain to a non American therapist that you have anxiety of being shooted on school or in a traffic incident, that kind of things are pretty foreign for the majority of the rest of the world, even for third world countries.
If a therapist cannot look beyond culture how will they understand what creates the problems in somebody’s life? To get canned answers, a book is enough.
Even within nations, particularly multicultural nations, it’s common to have psychologists who specialise in specific cultures to provide the most appropriate advice. When I studied psychology in Uni we did a segment on psychological differences across cultures and they’re really quite stark. I don’t know enough about Japanese culture to be able to counsel a suicidal salaryman, but I can definitely help others who share my culture look after their mental health.
There are no known psychological truths across cultures. Because our culture heavily impacts our psychology, the two tend to covary. No one therapist can give quality advice to an Anglo farmer, a Sentinelese woman, a Siberian child and a Moroccan man. The cultural contexts just vary too wildly.
Not an expert but this sounds like a behavioral school of thought. It’s a strong statement that there are no psychological truths across cultures. Can you recommend a source where I can learn more about that?
Shouldn’t at least psychoanalysts be able to work across cultures?
But even if knowledge of a culture is needed, there is still the possibility to learn it. Additionally, a view from outside could also be an advantage. Other cultures can have answers to our problems.
I don’t know of any publications that clearly state that there are no universal psychological truths across cultures, but I am yet to find any reputable evidence that there are universal psychological truths across cultures. Hence it’s the null hypothesis that hasn’t been disproven. If it can be disproven, I’d gladly change my assertion, but it’s impossible to prove a negative like this because it is the null hypothesis - it can only be disproven.
Nothing can really be properly proved in psychology anyway because of how soft the science is but also because of the changing nature of the influence of culture on psychology. Even within the same nation or peoples, culture also varies over time and so psychology is always playing catch-up. Social media related mental health issues are a great example - a psychologist who’s been plucked from 1970 and dropped into 2023 would have no idea how to counsel someone on that issue because it’s an entirely foreign concept to them.
Psychologists can absolutely learn and become experts in other cultures, but I think it’s beyond the scope of a single human being to become an expert in every single cultural context that exists. They often become experts in the cultures relevant to them - for example, trying to learn the differences between city/regional/rural issues, trying to understand the needs of LGBTQIA+ people, or learning to better understand CALD communities they’re based in/near.
Thanks for your long answer.
How about repetition compulsion?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetition_compulsion
Isn’t that universal?
For the service to work, the psychologists don’t have to learn all cultures. They can split the necessary specialization among themselves.
It may be universal, I’m not sure. I’ve not read any information able to establish that. There are indigenous tribes of people who are not integrated into the global world - we can’t know their psychology as we can’t study them.
Right. For the service to work it would be enough if people who live in cities have comparable mental structures.
It exists. But you will encounter a few issues:
$5 is not very much money in 3rd world countries either. If you want to speak to someone with a doctorate you can expect to pay a little more than that.
health insurance almost certainly won’t cover any percentage of a session with a therapist that isn’t on their books
tax. A healthcare professional is generally looking after their own books too. So the only way they will bother dealing with Americans is wmthe incentive of earning in dollars anyway
like others have said, culture differences will play a role in the kind of care you will receive.
recommends for a psychiatrist or meds will need a prescription and that won’t work across borders. You will need to get referred locally too.
a licensed therapist may not be licensed in your country, or worse, may be a hack or a scammer
But it most certainly exists. I’ve got a mate that treats people overseas. I believe there’s also an app that connects you with someone available too. Betterhelp, Talkspace to name a few.
Thanks for the references.
I’d feel a little bad complaining about my problems to someone working for so little.
One might actually choose the slightly more expensive fair trade t-shirt after such a conversation?
Secondhand all the way
A valid feeling as long as they make little.
Do you know PPP? You make little if you cannot resolve your psychological problems while they can rise a family.
If they earn more than their neighbors and can send their children to good schools, everybody wins.
*edit: made reply friendlier
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