I want to go into sales because they seem to earn a shit ton of money.

Are sales folks proles? Labor aristocracy?

Would I be a class traitor for selling something and earning, like, 10x more than the artist/engineer/ laborer who makes that thing?

  • Ufot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    What kind of sales? There’s lots of unethical sales jobs, if you do those idk if youre a class traitor but kind of a shit head. Then there’s more neutral sales jobs, I think you’re morally okay to do those.

    Below are some Qs on the job itself. You don’t have to answer me, but you should know the answer to these questions before you take a sales job.

    Inside sales? Outside sales? Business to Business? DTC? Hourly? Salary? Comission? Is the base pay ass? Is commission fair?

    Are people coming to you? Are you responsible for your own leads? Can you mentally justify the product/service you’re going to have to sell to yourself? To others? Is there already a market for it and you’re just selling a different version? What would you be selling, price? Service? Would it actually be a good idea for them to buy what you’re selling? If it’s not are you going to lie to them?

    If your selling products are you selling capital products? Consumables? What’s the typical sales cycle? Do they need more every week, month, year, 3 years, more? Are you selling a lot of little things, or little/big things for a lot?

    Are you selling a service? Is it a subscription? Per service? Same service they already use but different or a “new niche”

    Is it churn and burn, get a sell at all costs and look for the next mark? Is it slowly build a relationship and wait for a chance? In between? If you do get a customer are they likely to repeat? Will you get credit for returning customers?

    How competitive is the market? Is there already a big player(s) that most people use? Are you working for the big player? Does your company have a reputation? Does your competition? Is that something thst will work in your favor or something youll have to constantly work against?

    Does the company churn and burn through sales people? Are there some that stay awhile? Whats the success rate look like? Are their quotas?

    Sales sucks no matter what but there are perks and you can get paid. There are a lot of sales jobs that are not worth it from an ethical stance, you’re selling something people don’t need, you’re lieing to them, your selling an unethical product/service etc.

    There’s a lot of sales jobs that aren’t worth it from a organizational standpoint. It’s hard as shit to get sales, your not compensated well for them, you get abuse from management/ops. The market is saturated, your pricing isn’t competitive, there’s better products/services out that already exist.

    The company I work for does B2B sales. They’re absolutely not selling anything a company doesn’t need, just the fact we might be able to do the service better. It’s a mix of pricing, service and just overall relationship building. All of our long term customers trust, and like, their sales rep and the support staff as well. You’re generally responsible for your own leads, if your lucky a sales manager will give you some. It’s basically knocking on business doors and trying to talk to someone. They also go to events which is much nicer and more effective but they don’t happen all the time.

    We don’t have name rep but we compete against some companies that have a intl rep. Sometimes that works in our favor when big hat company doesn’t care about best service, but often times big company does fine and has strong pricing. I say compete but it’d hardly competitive if the big companies ever wanted any of our business they could take it.

    Sales take a long time to develop, sometimes months, sometimes even years. Sometimes you get lucky and slide in when a competitor has a disaster or a company suddenly explodes in growth and needs help but most people are relatively happy with the company their already using.

    So not the ideal situation, but overall pretty good. I was able to convince myself to try sales a few years ago and not have any ethical quandries about it. And our sales people who do succeed can make a grip, it just takes awhile and is hard as shit.

    I wanted to die it was terrible. There were a lot of perks, but you have to be on it pretty much every day and decide to stay on it throughout the day. You need to dress up, show up, follow up, check up consistently for weeks/months/years with often nothing to show for it. Constant rejection, constant ghosting, lieing, etc. from potential customers.

    Its a struggle, I gave up after maybe 5-6 months. Luckily I was able to get a different position back in the office that I’m much better suited for. One with numbers where I can wfh most of the time and don’t talk to customers very much.

    You ultimately have to be super money motivated and I was not. Or just really like it, but I think you can really like it unless you already really like money.

    I’m happy to try and answer any questions you might have. Im not going to be able to tell you how be good at it but l have a decent amount of insight on overall process.