cross-posted from: https://lemmy.wtf/post/22145277

Hey fellow inhabitants of the Fediverse, particularly those lurking on Lemmy,

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about the nature of information, discourse, and where genuine human connection can still thrive online. It leads me back to platforms like this one.

We often talk about censorship in terms of direct bans or content removal, which is obviously a critical concern. But what about the more insidious forms of control? I’m talking about the subtle fiddling of algorithms, the deliberate hiding of certain content without outright deletion, the ‘shadowbanning’ that makes you feel like you’re shouting into a void. How resistant is the decentralized nature of Lemmy, and the wider fediverse, to those kinds of pressures? It feels like the very architecture here might offer a unique defense, but I’m curious about the community’s thoughts.

I know we’re not exactly bursting at the seams with users, and frankly, if you’re not already clued into how something like Lemmy works, you’re probably never finding it through a casual search – SEO seems like a foreign concept here, battling potential duplicate content issues across instances. Is this quiet corner its strength, or its eventual downfall if the ‘outside’ world becomes too noisy?

Speaking of noise, it feels like nearly 90% of the content generated on the broader internet these days is starting to feel like it’s churned out by LLMs. Autogenerated articles, comments, even entire ‘conversations’ that ring hollow. Is the Fediverse, specifically, a safe haven from that rising tide of artificial content? Does the human-centric, community-driven nature of these instances inherently push back against such automation?

I’ve looked into ActivityPub and other federation tools in the past, and my observation has often been that they’ve been adopted primarily by marginalized groups in society, seeking refuge from mainstream platforms. While that’s incredibly valuable and a testament to their utility, what could truly happen to extend this concept, to genuinely get more people involved without compromising the very principles that make it appealing – decentralization, human curation, and resilience against algorithmic manipulation?

Just throwing it out there. Would appreciate any insights or theories.

  • FLOOF@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    Anything short of a 100% auditable forum that’s 100% in the control of the users is gonna slide towards total bullshit. And quick. It’s inevitable. Everybody thinks they’re so right that censorship is ok. Everybody.

  • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I assume it’s not as appealing to propagandists because accounts cannot accumulate “people love my takes so believe in what I’m saying” points. But I really don’t know much about the fediverse/Lemmy…

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    Not that resilient. Mods and admins controlling discussion, defederation due to dislike of the messenger, etc. I think the federation model is flawed and it should be done at the client side instead of on servers.