So Ukraine wasn’t building up an army to recover Crimea and fight against anti-n.a.t.o. separatism in its south-east ? Zelensky was elected as an alternative to anti-russians(, without the vote of south-eastern ukrainians under an economic blocus among other things), and did the opposite.
It’s just like saying that Russia will invade the rest of Europe or other lies(, probably the russian interferences as well since Russiagate was debunked and we have a strong history of lying, Georgia was the aggressor during the Beijing olympics), we just can’t tell the truth and our population is even ignoring the talking points of the opponent. The non-westerners know our point of view, never difficult to understand, we’re the ones systematically ignoring theirs, and lying with biases visible even to those agreeing with us.
Netanyahu is also a liar but that’s what we(sterners) do, the end justifies the means our leaders/representatives don’t speak from/with their heart, there’s an assumed propaganda of talking points, e.g. unprovoked for Russia or terrorists for Palestine, what are palestinians supposed to do to stop the ongoing colonization and live peacefully together ? What is Russia supposed to do if it’s rejected by the west because of their desire to be independent and in favor of multipolarity, supporting the declared enemies of the “policemen of the world” ? Iran wouldn’t be considered authoritarian if it was zionist.
What matters here is that there are solutions for each problem, we have a strong tendency to consider our opponents crazy/incomprehensible, without explaining/justifying in order to seek a national unity.
Now we’re censoring people for their opinions even more than before, it comes from the state and not platforms, with jail time and fees, but since we’re not killing people for posting unapproved opinions it could be worse. JD Vance was right to criticize the censorship wave of these last years in Europe(, and the US as well in a lesser measure), liberty is our only answer for a lack of egality 🤷(, in some forms, « poverty is slavery » though)
Huh. I didn’t take a look at your links and kinda expected to have problems with the mods for that comment anyway.
Seems like we have the same opinion and lemmy.ml is indeed not Reddit.
Sorry for such a bad comment, i’m french and our president, but far from only him, said a few annoying things that made me want to vent out, honestly i don’t know why, just that it’s one of these times when everything i’m hearing from the radio or t.v. or some twitter accounts of politicians just annoy me, it was a pointless comment in that sense, probably the equivalent of seeking a (verbal )fight in a pub, i was just getting ready to be angry at a poor pro-ukrainian as if it was productive, 🤷
I don’t think it was a bad comment, only that it was misdirected at someone who agrees with you. My comment was satirically phrased, making it easy to misinterpret, so that’s understandable.
Right, Russia simply shat on the Budapest Memorandum unprovoked; the West and Ukraine didn’t shit on any promises and accords beforehand. And history began exactly three years.
So Ukraine wasn’t building up an army to recover Crimea and fight against anti-n.a.t.o. separatism in its south-east ? Zelensky was elected as an alternative to anti-russians(, without the vote of south-eastern ukrainians under an economic blocus among other things), and did the opposite.
It’s just like saying that Russia will invade the rest of Europe or other lies(, probably the russian interferences as well since Russiagate was debunked and we have a strong history of lying, Georgia was the aggressor during the Beijing olympics), we just can’t tell the truth and our population is even ignoring the talking points of the opponent. The non-westerners know our point of view, never difficult to understand, we’re the ones systematically ignoring theirs, and lying with biases visible even to those agreeing with us.
Netanyahu is also a liar but that’s what we(sterners) do, the end justifies the means our leaders/representatives don’t speak from/with their heart, there’s an assumed propaganda of talking points, e.g. unprovoked for Russia or terrorists for Palestine, what are palestinians supposed to do to stop the ongoing colonization and live peacefully together ? What is Russia supposed to do if it’s rejected by the west because of their desire to be independent and in favor of multipolarity, supporting the declared enemies of the “policemen of the world” ? Iran wouldn’t be considered authoritarian if it was zionist.
What matters here is that there are solutions for each problem, we have a strong tendency to consider our opponents crazy/incomprehensible, without explaining/justifying in order to seek a national unity.
Now we’re censoring people for their opinions even more than before, it comes from the state and not platforms, with jail time and fees, but since we’re not killing people for posting unapproved opinions it could be worse. JD Vance was right to criticize the censorship wave of these last years in Europe(, and the US as well in a lesser measure), liberty is our only answer for a lack of egality 🤷(, in some forms, « poverty is slavery » though)
Did you mean to reply to OOC?
Huh. I didn’t take a look at your links and kinda expected to have problems with the mods for that comment anyway.
Seems like we have the same opinion and lemmy.ml is indeed not Reddit.
Sorry for such a bad comment, i’m french and our president, but far from only him, said a few annoying things that made me want to vent out, honestly i don’t know why, just that it’s one of these times when everything i’m hearing from the radio or t.v. or some twitter accounts of politicians just annoy me, it was a pointless comment in that sense, probably the equivalent of seeking a (verbal )fight in a pub, i was just getting ready to be angry at a poor pro-ukrainian as if it was productive, 🤷
I don’t think it was a bad comment, only that it was misdirected at someone who agrees with you. My comment was satirically phrased, making it easy to misinterpret, so that’s understandable.