• gowan@reddthat.com
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    10 months ago

    Since when was voting for representatives indicative of democracy? If your vote is fixed or if you can only vote for a singular party you wouldn’t be democratic at all.

    In China’s case you dan vote for your local representative in an election that might be fixed and you can only vote for communists so while they have voting Im not sure they even count as a failed/failing democracy like the USA is.

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      10 months ago

      Wrong, there are at least 8 other parties in congress and at local levels you don’t need to be a member of any party to be elected to certain posts. Where’s your evidence of the votes being fixed? You’re just lying and making things up about spooky enemy country

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        10 months ago

        All eight parties are only permitted to exist at the whim of the central party. That is a Jupiter sized red flag for fairness in elections. China has never had a free or fair election ever.

        China is not a democracy on any level. Just like Iran isn’t despite the fact you vote for more people directly as an Iranian.

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          10 months ago

          Same thing in other countries. US only has two parties to choose from and the elections don’t matter, sometimes they even make the person who got less votes than the other one president.

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            10 months ago

            No, the USA has dozens of parties and no individual party decides who can run. It is a critical difference.

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              10 months ago

              How many parties in Congress? Every president for over a century has been one of the two parties, it’s not a democracy at all. That’s a good thing by the way. If it was a democracy the lazy poors could vote away the power of the rich. That’s why James Madison who wrote the constitution said we can’t have a democracy because it would stop us from hoarding wealth. I’m glad he did that because otherwise us wealthy folk wouldn’t be able to do whatever we want.

              Chinas problem is it has too much democracy. The people that live there like their government (gross!) and say that it is democratic. That’s because the lazy poors over there get to run the show and the rich can’t just do whatever they want (NOT GOOD).

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                10 months ago

                Three or four as I recall are in Congress right now but that is a false equivalence as the issue is the Chinese Communist Party determines what opposition can exist to them. That is why they are not democratic.

                People can like their government all they want. It does not make them democratic. Given Xi’s recent move to make him eligible to lead for life they are in serious danger of no longer being socialist.

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                  10 months ago

                  The Democrat and Republican parties definitely determine who can run since they make all the laws. It’s a dictatorship, which is good for me since I’m rich and I don’t want lazy poors to be able to vote for dumb policies that tax me more to pay for handouts.

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                    10 months ago

                    No the two parties do not determine who can run. They determine who can run for their party. China’s communist party decides who can oppose them which means they are neither democratic nor a free population