• exploitedamerican@lemm.ee
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      4 hours ago

      I dont think pro Ukraine is the right stance considering Ukraine is just a western proxy state that is looting the land and the labor of its citizens for the benefit of western hegemonic imperialism. Yeah yeah putin is not great either but Ukraine used to be a paragon of education and technological industrial power. Their gdp has severely declined since the fall of the Berlin wall and the USSR the USA and all the other western powers involved in the 5 and 14 eyes surveillance sharing programs are not the good guys. What we did to Iraq was not a good thing and although we didn’t destroy the Ukraine before establishing a proxy puppet regime as happened in Iraq we definitely looted their natural resources and have used Ukraine’s locale to our benefit by manipulating trade route politics and policies in the last 35 years.

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          What makes western hegemony, lead by profit motives of wall street military and prison industry profiteers any better than the brand of imperialism offered by modern russia? Both are guilty of war crimes and murder civilians. What does the neo liberal koolaid passing as modern leftism taste like?

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        occupied people > occupying forces

        I can’t think of a scenario you can come up with that would change this

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              So you’re saying the west hasn’t turned Ukraine into a proxy state controlled by the same wall street military industry profiteers that “spread democracy” through iraq and the middle east? You just blindly trust what billionaires tell you through their owned propaganda outlets? Did you fly a ukraine flag up next to your biden and harris flags supporting fascist imperialism for profit? Whatever floats your boat. Ukraine was in a better spot before the fall of the USSR. Arguing otherwise shows you have no concept of reality

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        If you think you’re on the left and supporting more American funded and orchestrated militaristic war profiteering them newsflash, you are not on the left, youre a neo liberal. The very people benefiting from and perpetrating Ukraine’s “defense” are the same people you would be fighting against in a class war. Ukraine is defending western capitalist interests, the civilians dying aren’t dying for democracy they are dying for the same fascist capitalist hegemony that now controls the political landscape in America and all the main stream legacy media outlets