• IzyaKatzmann [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Any comrades know anything about creating an easily searchable database to make it easier to respond when folks bring up clear misinformation? I get that wikipedia and prolewiki are things, as well as wonderful comments by other comrades, but they aren’t too easy to query or search through for specific information.

    There isn’t a granularity to the searches which makes it difficult to find relevant info quickly when searching. SQL and the like are convenient, and something like Wikibase allows for annotation of data, are there any other tools or methods anyone knows about?

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      1 year ago

      It’s sadly a bit of a toughie. I know a lot of jexbear users have made effortposts on quite a lot of subjects, so my first go to is to search thru Hexbear for effortposts with good sources. It’s sadly not ideal. I know the user u/robinn2 has made a carrd on Xinjiang, which is often used. you could consider making a carrd on another common subject and help that way. While that does not help you, it helps the next one

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        1 year ago

        Ah, the cards are a good idea. If I could ask about your experiences to get a better idea of a potential solution:

        • Is searching through lemmy/hexbear preferable due to the interface, or how the information is presented?
        • Did you go to hexbear first due to your familiarity with it or because it was what first came to mind?
        • Do you usually look for this info on your phone?
        • Is some info good but you’d have to reformat it so you don’t end up using it?
        • Do you ever put stuff that’s good in your own words?
        • Do you find the formatting (headings, subheadings, bold, etc.) to be helpful in navigating and finding the stuff you are looking for when you have like a huge effortpost?
        • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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          1 year ago
          • I usually both search on Google withe site:hexbear.net and on Hexbear itself. On Google I am moreso looking for keywords. Hexbear weights upvotes more, and oftentimes a good effortpost has received a lot of upvotes, where Google gives more of everything, but both needs a lot of finagling to be useful.
          • Hexbear due to familiarity.
          • I’m usually posting from phone, so unless it’s an effortpost I stay there. For a good infogathering it’s on pc tho.
          • Most info needs reformatting (adding linktext for example) so it’s rarely something I think of. When it’s just a quick message I just link the person to the thread. I always rephrase if I’m making a new effortpost.
          • If I make new effortpost yeah, otherwise I usually just repost the info as is - with minor tweaks.
          • Yes! Good formatting is a lifesaver
    • iie [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      I just keep extensive notes and collect quotes, comments, and articles to refer back to

      it’s not ideal, I agree with you we need some kind of database with a powerful search function

      and yeah, like Egon I also search hexbear when I need to respond to someone