Hey everyone, I’ve removed bans for everyone that did not request one in the previous admin thread. (I think. If you got banned and I didn’t restore your account yet, let me know and I’ll fix it.) Don’t worry! We’re not gonna just ban people for no reason.
In case anyone hasn’t seen it yet, Alaskaball confirmed that Sangria was their admin alt. They were messing around with their admin tools on their own account and figured it would be seen as a funny bit, but without being informed of the bit many of the mods and admins were just as shocked, confused, and appalled as you were. I’ve talked to the other admins and mods, and we’re all gonna take it easy on bits for a bit. (Pun intended. This is the last one, I promise.)
If you’re afraid that there’s been an infiltration of transphobic, egomaniacal wrecker mods who hate the users, I want to assure you that’s absolutely not the case. The overwhelming majority of mods and admins on this site are trans. Our admins are all trusted, long-time users in good standing. We regularly browse, comment, and post on our main accounts. You post and chat with us daily as comrades, and we value all of you. You may not recognize the usernames on our admin accounts because we regularly swap the alts used for admin privileges. This is why you’ll see really old or unused alt accounts as well as really new accounts on the admin team.
I’ve seen a lot of speculation down below, some entertaining, some upsetting. We absolutely do not accept transphobia or any form of bigotry on this site. Some of the statements provided by mods and admins have been seen as transphobic and bioessentialist. I want to offer some transparency, but also clarify that I can’t get much more specific on this for personal security reasons.
During the earlier discussions on how we felt things could be improved with these communities, multiple trans mods and admins described their reasoning in favour of the change by expressing with a variety of wording that it’s the [he/him] demographic in particular that has been the source of toxic and troubling behavior in the tanks. That the he/hims haven’t been beating the accusations, so to speak. With that group being largely cishet white guys on this site, these two terms were assumed to roughly correlate. We weren’t making prepared statements for release, the comments that got posted here were paraphrased and combined from more casual comments made by trans people, in the mod chat to mostly other trans people about some of the chauvinistic and ironically bigoted posting habits that they saw as alienating and unhealthy for the site, and what we could do to improve the situation. We genuinely didn’t foresee the potential for a miscommunication of those statements as being bioessentialist, and want to extend our sincerest apologies for the misunderstanding.
Edit: Please feel welcome to post in c/gossip as you would have posted in the_dunk_tank, and in c/counterpropaganda as you would have posted in the_dredge_tank.
I know this will sound unreasonable and I apologize, sometimes we’re going to be unreasonable. I do not believe you. Not even a little, not for a second, not once. I feel that I have many strong reasons to disbelieve admin statements at this point and it will take a lot of work before I believe a word from any red-badge again.
Given this admin statement I will in the future refrain from making that specific accusation again. Feel free to purge the specific comments of mine in which I leveled the accusation. But I stand by it.
I don’t believe it either. It’s not even necessarily that I don’t believe Lyudmila who may well be honest that that’s what the mod in question said. But that doesn’t mean I believe the mod in question. Of course she would say she was busy and offline and was not making alts to harass users when asked if that’s what she was doing. There are several places in this chain where you can disbelieve what’s being reported. I don’t believe it for one second either. It’s also telling that half of my question wasn’t even acknowledged, let alone answered. To me, that’s pretty much confirmation that not only is this mod that same banned wrecker from months ago, but that the mods are aware of this, accept it, and keeping it quiet.
To articulate a bit further, there are two possibilities I deem plausible.
The wrecker in question is the mod.
The wrecker in question wants to frame the mod.
In option 2, the wrecker in question would have to be aware that the mod (currently engaged in a struggle session and getting more heated with each post) has suddenly been called away for an offline engagement where they will be unable to vouch for themselves for multiple days.
Even if we accept the plausibility of option 2… That still means the wrecker was either a mod or long-standing hexbear user. Because it would have to be someone who has that kind of personal connection to the mod AND the knowledge of how to frame them for ableism and transphobia on hexbear.
The mod who was accused often has limited internet access on weekends and I was able to confirm that she literally hasn’t had internet access since Friday and still doesn’t. I had to get in touch offline.
Let’s say this statement is completely true. That still does not preclude the possibility that the first wrecker account (which was made on Friday) was the mod in question. The mod in question was actively posting only minutes before the wrecker accounts popped up. You expect me to believe that the mod in question coincidentally lost internet access at exactly that moment? At the moment that someone decided to impersonate them on alts? Come on.
Almost every weekend she goes to a place that does not have internet access. She is currently in that place. Multiple mods were able to confirm that she is in that place, and that there is no internet access there. We’re not going to doxx the person you’re accusing, obviously.
Also, honestly I feel like I’ve moderated enough of her comments to say I don’t really see enough resemblance to say it’s an impersonation either.
Oh ok, so you just think I’m a complete fucking rube who will believe whatever bullshit you make up. Come on. No one talks like that.
https://hexbear.net/comment/5609816
Maybe I’m not analyzing the posts hard enough, but I’ve never seen helltakerhomosexual call someone a bozo, and lots of terminally online twitch viewers say things like “let’s goooo,” I wouldn’t exactly call that a smoking gun.
I don’t think you’re a rube, but I do think you’re very invested in this whole thing and could probably benefit from stepping away and taking a break from the site for a little while. As could I.
Unfortunately, because you admins clearly are not. Instead of giving me a bunch of unsolicited lies buried deep in a thread where I’m just trying to put my thoughts out there without having to debate obvious bullshit, why don’t you reply to my top-level comment? It was like the third comment in the entire thread, it was a simple and natural and reasonable question phrased in a reasonable way. This comment chain down here is dead to you. I have already explained why I will not and cannot believe you, your story does not make sense. Give this one up, and try telling the truth about something for a change.
Maybe it’s this Catradora person and she’s under a new name*
(*This is tongue in cheek, the lure of the bit is strong)
@[email protected] for your satisfaction
Whoever this mystery wrecker is, they’ve returned again. Like a hydra, for every acct felled, two alts shall take its place.
Not a hydra, remember this is a dork-ass loser. A slime, splitting in two each time you smack it.