• TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz
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    2 days ago

    You know that there’s different depictions of Jesus in many races, right? Like, people in Africa have depictions of a black Jesus, for example.

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      Yeah, I think the far easier explanation is “people around the world depict their religious figures as looking like themselves”.

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      It’s about European churches using historical revisionism (depicting Jesus as a white European) to establish a sense of “superiority”.

      Those churches are by far the most dominant

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        Frankly this comes off almost as a conspiracy theory. Christian art in Europe developed its typical imagery when the vast majority of Europeans could have no direct contact with non-Europeans, before colonialism or coherent ideas about racial identities, when far-off lands were thought to be occupied by one-legged giants…

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          Dude: ports exist, people trade, across the Mediterranean you can find lots of different skin colours and customs.

          Nobility and their favoured travelled extensively, skilled tradespeople would undertake elaborate pilgramidge if they could afford it all the way to Jerusalem. Even serfs got to go on pilgrimage although usually not to Jerusalem but to other cathedrals.

          Stop with this ahistorical nonsense. Maybe someone in the British isles might not have much contact of the greater world but the HRE? Spain? Italy? The eastern Roman empire? Of fucking course they did.

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          You know that… Christianity developed in the Roman Empire? The Middle East (more exactly Palestine and Syria. Which were larger that today’s counterparts) wasn’t some magical place where giants lived, but a province of said Empire

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      “Black Jesus” is a deliberate response to the traditional white depiction of Jesus, arising out of an acrimonious colonial relationship with whites. We’re trying to discuss why Jesus was depicted as white in the first place.

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        1 day ago

        If anything, it’s stupid and bad for society to outright dismiss peoples faith. Faith and hope is a huge part of what drives humans in the first place.

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          19 hours ago

          You can still have faith and hope without religion though. I’m not religious and have faith that the good in humanity will prevail. I have hope for a better future created by humanity.

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            12 hours ago

            Some people get faith and hope from Christianity. Or Islam, or Buddhistm or others. Nothing wrong with that.

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            19 hours ago

            I never said that you can’t have faith or hope without religion. I’m not religious myself. But faith expresses itself differently for different people. And in the end, no one can really prove to the living that their answer to life was the truly correct one.

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            19 hours ago

            What is “prevailing”? What is “better”? What if I disagree with you? Etc etc. There is no justification for secular “morality”. It is mob rule.

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              19 hours ago

              Why would your beliefs affect my beliefs at all? I’m just showing that belief and hope are not dependent on religion.

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                Why would your beliefs affect my beliefs at all?

                What beliefs? You haven’t stated, much less justified, them.

                I’m just showing that belief and hope are not dependent on religion.

                You’re showing that you can string words together to form a sentence but not much else.