• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Please read theory, you’re speaking nonsense. No one is advocating for 3 random Communists to overthrow the state by themselves. There can be no revolutionary movement without the support of the masses.

    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      4 months ago

      You can absolutely have a revolution without majority support, you just need support of the majority of the power.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            4 months ago

            Depends. You’re very interested in avoiding reading books, so I don’t really care to play semantical games with you when you don’t know what we are talking about to begin with.

            • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              You have suggestions for books? I’m not going to be able to read more than a couple of pages in the middle of this conversation, but maybe after we’re done?

              My point is I don’t think you should be advocating starting revolution till that opinion is close to a majority.

              • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                The book I linked in the beginning, Reform or Revolution, goes over the futility of Reform and the necessity of Revolution.

                My point is I don’t think you should be advocating starting revolution till that opinion is close to a majority.

                Nobody is advocating for prematurely trying to force a revolution, that is Adventurism and is looked down upon by Communists. Instead, build up dual power along democratic lines, so that when the contradictions within Capitalism and Imperialism weaken the State, there exists a ready-made organization that can integrate with the working masses. Read The State and Revolution for the strategy for Revolution, specifically.

                • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  It seemed like you were suggesting in your original comment that voting was futile and that we needed a revolution instead.

                  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    7
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    4 months ago

                    Voting is futile when it comes to enacting positive change, and we do need a revolution to actually enact change, but that doesn’t mean we can will a revolution into existence out of thin-air. Revolution is inevitable in Capitalist systems as Capitalism declines out of its necessary contradictions.

                    It would be great if you would read some of what I have linked.