• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    FWIW, self defense is typical a valid claim only when you are in direct and immediate danger, and that danger has to be death or grievous bodily harm. Danger or a potential harm at some nebulous time in the future–or danger at a period in the past–is not generally considered a valid reason for using lethal force. That’s why women that murder their abusers often end up in prison; they typically kill their abuser when their abuser is asleep or otherwise incapacitated, rather than in the moment of being threatened or attacked. (Yes, I think that the law is wrong in that instance, given the dynamics of abusive relationships.)

    Consult a lawyer for your state or province, because this shit varies from place to place.

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      11 months ago

      That’s why women that murder their abusers often end up in prison; they typically kill their abuser when their abuser is asleep or otherwise incapacitated, rather than in the moment of being threatened or attacked. (Yes, I think that the law is wrong in that instance, given the dynamics of abusive relationships.)

      Just… no. If you have the opportunity to kill someone while they’re defenseless, you have the opportunity to leave.

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        11 months ago

        So you managed to condemn and subjugate both rape and domestic violence victims in one post. I don’t know if I should be horrified or impressed.

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        11 months ago

        Well, that’s the prosecution’s claim, anyways.

        But have you ever met someone that escaped from an abusive relationship? It’s just not that easy. Abused people often aren’t allowed to have access to money, transportation, or outside support networks. Shelters have limited space, and you can’t stay there for a year while you try to get on your feet, certainly not if you have kids. You can be homeless, I guess?