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    5 months ago

    Atheism is certainty of the nonexistence of a creator.

    As clearly demonstrated in this thread by people certain of their atheism so much you would be hard pressed to find a religious person so arrogant in their beliefs.

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      5 months ago

      Atheism is certainty of the nonexistence of a creator.

      This is wrong. The only thing required to be an atheist is lacking a belief in theistic claims. You don’t need to make the claim that God doesn’t exist, and most atheists don’t.

      The only thing we’re certain of (not absolutely, but fairly certain) is that theists haven’t met their burden of proof.

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          You highlighted the A without any understanding of what the prefix a- means. It means not, or without.

          I’m not a theist because they haven’t convinced me of any theistic claims. I don’t claim no gods exist. I just don’t know of any gods that exist, therefore I am without theism. A-theism.

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            https://www.dictionary.com/e/atheism-agnosticism/

            There is a key distinction between these terms. An atheist doesn’t believe in the existence of a god or divine being. The word atheist originates with the Greek atheos, which is built from the roots a- (“without”) and theos (“a god”). Atheism is the doctrine or belief that there is no god.

            In contrast, the word agnostic refers to a person who neither believes nor disbelieves in a god or religious doctrine. Agnostics assert that it’s impossible to know how the universe was created and whether or not divine beings exist.

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                5 months ago

                They seem quite confident as they proclaim their superiority over religious people and cannot comprehend why anyone would be religious.

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                  Sure. And nobody claimed “God doesn’t exist.” Two people now have told you that you’re mistaken, but you insist.

                  From our perspective it seems like you’re imposing a baseless claim onto us so you can feel better about your own baseless claims. Only theists say atheism is a claim.

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                    There is no baseless claim it is the only reasonable claim from our current understanding of physics.

                    Claiming that the universe magically came out of nothing is not an answer to some. It contradicts all of science especially the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

                    Nonetheless you are still conflating Atheism and Agnosticism. These words exist for a reason they mean different things.